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Old 09-15-2023, 09:54 AM
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Not counting his brief play in 94

95 - part time team finishes 1st.
96 - finally full time team finishes 2nd
97 - team finishes 1st
98-2000 team either 2nd or third.
2001 -No Arod 1st

New team
2000 no Arod finshed 4th after being 1st in 99
2001 with him finished 4th
Same 2002-2003
2004 no Arod- 3rd

New team
Pre-Arod, long string of division wins
2004 - divison win again, as you'd figure for a team that was a perennial winner with 100+wins the previous two years.
2005 - 6 still 1st
2007 - retirement, aside from 2014 always in the top 3.
2014, not much change without him.
2016 -with him not playing full time -4th
2017 -without him 2nd

It could be said that he made all his teams worse. At best he had essentially no effect on his teams finish, and all three finished better after he left.

Gaudy numbers, but not much else.

Also a fairly decent argument against WAR, because
2000 Arod 10.4
2001 Carlos Guillen 2.3

2003 arod 8.4
2004 Michael Young 1.9

His last few years weren't good, so that comparison wouldn't be particularly fair. but his replacement the year after he retired was Matt Holliday who also had a negative WAR at DH that year.

He probably hung on at least a couple years too long. If I remember it right he got a licensing contract from the Yankees a few years before where he got a portion of the money from any 700th home run merchandizing.
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