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There seems to have been a lot of these ‘fraud’ brands like the second Anargyros, piggy backing off established ATC brands and sub firms. The rejected registrations have a lot of what seem to be these, like “Count Tolstoi”. The real Anargyros and Metropolitan seem to flip flop between being front holding firms and just openly being subsidiary operators of the ATC. There’s so much inconsistency in how the ATC is operating in 1910.

Mecca in Canada is of special interest to me. The Adless version of Mecca’s T218 is labelled a Canadian issue (C52) and many of the cards have come from Canada and the American northeast, but I’ve also got an original batch from a Virginia provenance and I am not yet entirely sold on the general narrative that any T card with a card number in place of advertising is an Imperial Tobacco product. I didn’t come across anything that Turkey Red or Piedmont were actually issued in Canada, the registrations don’t mean they were actually sold there. Worthy of deeper digging

In your dives into Obak, do you have anything in your notes on Pet and Kopec? The west coast brands that released the T224/T229 set closely related to T212. Obak appears a lot in the primary material I’ve been through and seems to have been popular but these brands rarely earn mention. I would assume they were also run by the same people.
I haven't found anything at all on Kopec but I did find a little bit about Pets Cigarettes here's an ad for them and it's the other Anagyros that the lawsuit was brought against.
February 12 1910 Oakland Tribune
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I'm positive I saw something on the Imperial Tobacco company producing Mecca Cigarettes but I wasn't able to locate it again yet. It was just a couple of days ago when I was researching something else. I should have saved it but they recently changed things, I used to be able to clip and save them without interrupting what I'm researching but now I have to print it out and scan it.
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