Joe Doyle N.Y. NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"......PART 2

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Luke

I replied to Pat's comment in Post #4.

For starters....I will first ask you the same as I asked him......
" Do we really know if American Litho (ALC) printed 350-only subjects with 150/350 subjects on the same sheets when ALC started printing 350 backs on the 150 series cards ? "

Do you have any proof that ALC did not ? ? Show it to me !

Because we certainly do know ALC in their 1st series printing of T215-1 cards (circa 1910) there is a mixture of 150/350, 350-only, and 350/460 series cards. Which confirms to
us that in certain new series, ALC re-arranged their printing plates, and also added new plates.


2nd....You're assuming that ALC started their 350 press runs of 150 series cards using the same sheets that ALC used when they printed the 150 press runs.
Well, let's see your proof of this ?

3rd....Look here, you don't have to tell me anything about the Elite 11 that I don't already know. Ten years ago on this forum, I presented my theory regarding the Elite 11 (when no
one here was aware of the scarcity of these T206 subjects with PIEDMONT 350 and EPDG backs.

But, now you write up in your blog just about everything I have for years presented on this forum....and, you don't even possess the common decency to acknowledge my research ! !

4th.... And, quit the crap of trying to lecture me regarding the career status of 10 (of the 11) guys. The following is an excerpt of what I posted on Net54 some time ago......





TED Z

T206 Reference
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No Ted I guess we can't prove with absolute certainty that ALC didn't print
350 only subjects on sheets with 150/350 subjects but from what we do
know about the printing it's unlikely that they did.

A few reasons why it's unlikely that Doyle was printed on a sheet with the
elite eleven.....

For starters Doyle isn't a true 350 only subject. He was printed with an
Apple green Sovereign 350 back so he was printed later in the 350 series
which makes him a print group 3 subject.
Doyle Sov 350.jpg

There are no miscut front cards with a 150/350 subject and a 350 only or 350/460 subject.

Of the 40+ confirmed two name cards both names are all either 150/350 or 350 only or in a couple of examples 350 only/super print.

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