T206 Who should be a HOFer that isn't ???

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Originally Posted by bravos4evr

I think it's funny when folks use old antiquated stats that are worthless, then when corrected with modern, more accurate stats they resort to name calling and hand wave away the data. It's like arguing evolution with a religious fanatic....

New stats are better, more accurate and based on things that are important instead of the poorly thought out stats of yesteryear. You either adapt, evolve or stay in the past. This is the way of things.

your argument about K's is poorly thought out as the player still has to field those balls and if Dahlen made outs on 30 of 100 more balls in play then he was an amazing fielder indeed!

What new stats do we have from 1891-1911? We don't have enough data to accurately calculate advanced stats from those years. He just pointed out the years that he led or was near the top of the league in traditional stats and I pointed out that he wasn't among league leaders even more times.

I don't think that you even understand my argument. You are ignoring that he also made 16 more errors to get those 30 outs. That is not very good.