Joe Doyle N.Y. NAT'L and it's 11 "cousins"......PART 2

[tedzan]

Hey Luke

I replied to Pat's comment in Post #4.

For starters....I will first ask you the same as I asked him......
" Do we really know if American Litho (ALC) printed 350-only subjects with 150/350 subjects on the same sheets when ALC started printing 350 backs on the 150 series cards ? "

Do you have any proof that ALC did not ? ? Show it to me !

Because we certainly do know ALC in their 1st series printing of T215-1 cards (circa 1910) there is a mixture of 150/350, 350-only, and 350/460 series cards. Which confirms to
us that in certain new series, ALC re-arranged their printing plates, and also added new plates.


2nd....You're assuming that ALC started their 350 press runs of 150 series cards using the same sheets that ALC used when they printed the 150 press runs.
Well, let's see your proof of this ?

3rd....Look here, you don't have to tell me anything about the Elite 11 that I don't already know. Ten years ago on this forum, I presented my theory regarding the Elite 11 (when no
one here was aware of the scarcity of these T206 subjects with PIEDMONT 350 and EPDG backs.

But, now you write up in your blog just about everything I have for years presented on this forum....and, you don't even possess the common decency to acknowledge my research ! !

4th.... And, quit the crap of trying to lecture me regarding the career status of 10 (of the 11) guys. The following is an excerpt of what I posted on Net54 some time ago......

Originally Posted by tedzan

The Elite 11 subjects are originally 150 Series subjects. When ALC started printing the 350-series cards they included 150 series subjects in the mix. The following info
may also explain why the Elite 11 subjects were short-printed with PIEDMONT 350 backs.

Dahlen (Boston)....joined Brooklyn, Oct 27, 1909

Ewing..................traded to Phillies, Jan 20, 1910

Ganley.................ML career ended, Sept 27, 1909

Tom Jones............traded to Detroit, Aug 20, 1909

Karger.................traded to Boston AL. Jul 26, 1909

Lindaman.............released from Boston NL, Jul 26, 1909

Lundgren..............ML career ended, Apr 23, 1909

Schaefer...............traded to Washington, Aug 13, 1909

Al Shaw................ML career ends 1909

Spencer................played only 28 games with Boston AL in 1909

Mullin................... ? ? (long and very successful Pitcher with Detroit)


And, then there is......a single Schulte (front) with PIEDMONT 350 back. I do not consider this subject as part of the Elite 11 group, until I see an EPDG back on this card.

TED Z

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