Goodwin Pickups

[Matt]

How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:

[calvindog]

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

Calm down Jeff. Maybe you'll get "another shot" at those exact cards in an upcoming auction!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. Given the true rarity, the fantastic aesthetic and the fact that it depicts Babe Ruth, I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at. It's possible that had I left a ceiling bid, it would have.

[Rob D.]

Not just Goodwin ... Greatwin.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. ... I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at.

And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

I'm not anticipating any future auctions

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm not anticipating any future auctions

Too bad. I hear that's where the real money is made.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

...one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night;

Jeff - I'm actually surprised SGC crossed that one over; it has some pretty noticeable issues on the back.

For purposes of comparison, I've added one of mine on the right:

[Leon]

Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

[calvindog]

Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

Jeff - if that's what that card is worth with PL, imagine what it's worth with a full back!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Maybe they thought it was Jeber's Gold Medal.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Leon

Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

You might be right. It might be that the 4th time we see the same thing for sale is the charm? I've been known to be wrong before....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

Nah, eventually the cards actually sell, at a lower and sometimes much lower price.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

Jim, if there was a National this week you could probably get them at a deep, deep discount.

Woops, I best shut my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

[rman444]

Leon - did you finally get your d303 wagner?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rman444

Leon - did you finally get your d303 wagner?

hey Richard
I am waiting for the 4th time it sells...

[rman444]

You guys are too funny.

It is a great card that I was tempted to try to win back, but then I remembered why I parted with it in the first place and pursued a card with a different front and not just a different back.

Having 5 wagner battings staring up at me is not fun anymore.

[calvindog]

Richard, it might be funnier if you receive a call next week from Bill Goodwin telling you that the "winner" of the D303 Wagner didn't pay for the card and you can have it for the underbidder price.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

...the "winner" of the D303 Wagner didn't pay for the card and you can have it for the underbidder price.

I was wondering why even though we have, by far, the largest community of pre-war card collector's anywhere, I am the only one to have claimed to have won anything in last night's auction...

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

I was wondering why... I am the only one to have claimed to have won anything in last night's auction...

Maybe it depends upon your definition of the word "won."

[rman444]

I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.

[rman444]

I won the W600 Wagner, and if the previous owner would have just sold it to me directly it would have saved me from eating more ramen

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by rman444

I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.

Richard, if I were you I'd run out immediately and buy a lottery ticket.

[Cat]

Originally Posted by rman444

I have never had any problems with Bill's auctions and have always received my consignment checks paid in full in a timely manner. I have never received an offer to purchase when I have been an underbidder on an item.

That's my experience with Bill, which is really all I can really comment on.

I always get my checks for consignments.

I also won something last night.

My experience has always been positive.

Nice pickup on the W600. You need more Wagner cards!!!

[botn]

I won a card last night. I also had a top all on it and it did not get close. I have never been concerned about placing a top all in Bill's auction. I also consigned material. Some of which went well beyond what I expected and others did not do so well. I was contacted this morning by someone who won one of my items which I felt did not do well. The winner told me a top all was placed on the item 2 bids higher than the final bid.

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by botn

I won a card last night. I also had a top all on it and it did not get close. I have never been concerned about placing a top all in Bill's auction. bid.

For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by V117collector

For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!

Brad - I really appreciate you posting that as I was sitting here for the last hour wondering "What does Brad thing about this thread...Does it make him happy? angry? sad? or does it make him thing of Borat?"

Thanks for clearing that up for me; I suspected the answer might be Borat but now I know for sure.

[calvindog]

Hmmm....sounds like you guys are conspiring on this thread.

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Hmmm....sounds like you guys are conspiring on this thread.

Hmmm... Lets keep on topic!

[triwak]

I was gonna make a run at the Agulitas Oscar Charleston, but it was outta my sights before I even started! >8k with a pinhole! Damn.

[rman444]

Actually Bill is lining all of our pockets with all of that extra money he is making with the record setting un-shilled bids in his auctions.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by rman444

Actually Bill is lining all of our pockets with all of that extra money he is making with the record setting un-shilled bids in his auctions.

Have you seen his bidding records?

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by triwak

I was gonna make a run at the Agulitas Oscar Charleston, but it was outta my sights before I even started! >8k with a pinhole! Damn.

I was outbid on that one as well. The last time that card sold in Ryan Christoff's auction, it went for over $10,000.

[Cat]

Originally Posted by Wesley

I was outbid on that one as well. The last time that card sold in Ryan Christoff's auction, it went for over $10,000.

You guys need to have more staying power.

[botn]

Originally Posted by V117collector

For some reason "Borat" poped in to my mind when reading the above quote!

Darn those pesky voices inside your head. Such a distraction, aren't they? Well, tell everyone I say hello.

[scooter729]

Just curious, but for the uninitiated, what items has Goodwin sold multiple times in the past? Is this a frequent issue?

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by Matt

How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:

Hey Matt,

Amid all of the puerility of this thread, this really is a nice pickup. Congrats!

[chiprop]

jeff- take it easy!

[calvindog]

Fraud isn't puerile.

[bigfish]

It is interesting that certain people target certain auction houses while a certain auction house stays out of the line of fire. If you are going to poke and investigate every card in Bill's auction, why don't you do the same for all the auction houses? Or you could just use your time doing something else more fun? Just a thought. Too much negative press here all the time. I have never had an issue with getting paid in Bill's auction. My topple bids don't get run to the top and stop short. I will only leave a topple bid in Goodwin. Cards get re auctioned all the time from all auction houses. It is the way things are going these days. My 2 cents.

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Fraud isn't puerile.

So true but was hoping to see more pickups. Maybe it's true

[calvindog]

Which auction houses are kept out of the line of fire?

Let me count them: REA, Sloate (RIP), B & L, Huggins & Scott.

Those in the line of fire: Mastro/Legendary, Mile High, ML, Goodwin.

Are the two groups at all different to you?

[oldjudge]

I have had nothing but positive experiences in Bill's auctions; he is a pleasure to work with. I won two lots last night, the American Caramel Ruth and the Num Num set, both at under my max bids. I also know the winner of four of the Leaf football lots, including the $71,000 Luckman. Those were real wins by a real person.

[V117collector]

There seems to be a problem with goodwin's shipping department... did anyone else NOT get a catalog?

[botn]

Brad,

Bill is out to get you. Just ask those voices. If you want I can send you my catalog.

Greg

[V117collector]

Originally Posted by botn

Brad,

Bill is out to get you. Just ask those voices. If you want I can send you my catalog.

Greg

As a previous Consignor you'd think getting a catolog wouldn't be too much trouble, right? Well, I've had previous issues with goodwin regarding costomer service, no email replies and late payment on consigned goods.

Weeks after the auction I posted a thread asking if anyone got paid/no catolog. Only then did goodwin respond... Did everyone else get a catalog this time? hmmm...

[barrysloate]

Hi Toby- hope you are well. They are "top all" bids, not "topple." But I did get a chuckle out of it.