What do y'all think of this Green Cobb?

[ullmandds]

This Green Cobby just sold on Ebay for $4500...a strong price for a seemingly gorgeous example.

My first impression was what a beautiful card...nicely centered...gorgeous color and good reg. Maybe it's worthy of a "bump?"

Then I started looking closer and I thought I saw 2 little creases one to the top left and the other to the right of cobbs head.

I zoomed in and decided the upper left looks ok...but the right side of his head looks odd to me?

What do you guys think about this price and card?

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Scratch or indentation?


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[1952boyntoncollector]

its a 4 its going to have some issues of course..but for its grade it looks really good....green cobb hasn't been available in a 4 in awhile...I don't think the next one will go for as much..plus you walking 500+ is pp/ebay fees.

[Donscards]

Centering is off top to bottom plus a little left to right but great color and registration---a very nice 4 I think it fell in the right price range---toughest Cobb to get of the 4 T206's.

[1952boyntoncollector]

a quck check of cardtarget shows last 3 ebay auctions are 2800-3300 (since march 2014) the other cobb poses go for less...didn't check what the cards looked like but this card does look like top dollar was paid....

[bbsports]

He also auctioned off a Cobb in a red portrait PSA 4 that had a crease about a half inch long on the front right side of the card that sold for just under $2K.

[Jobu]

I think you might be right on the light crease by the head, or at least a light scratch, tough to tell. There also appears to be a light smudge (maybe the scan though) on his left check (the right side of the card).

[MVSNYC]

why not ask the seller for higher res scans?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by bbsports

he also auctioned off a cobb in a red portrait psa 4 that had a crease about a half inch long on the front right side of the card that sold for just under $2k.

lol

[gnaz01]

I followed it Pete, and loved the card but waaaaaaay too strong a price, IMO.

[MVSNYC]

I assume whoever bought it, might crack it and submit to SGC hoping for a 60/5?

[ullmandds]

I haven't seen a price this strong for a similarly graded green cobb in years.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I haven't seen a price this strong for a similarly graded green cobb in years.

right and only more green cobbs added to POP over the years...someone was willing to overpay obviously..but time will tell on the next auction listings..

[ullmandds]

As per usual with some ebay sellers that seem to bring incredulous prices...while this was a nice card...I believe this will prove to be somewhat of an anomaly.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

a quck check of cardtarget shows last 3 ebay auctions are 2800-3300 (since march 2014) the other cobb poses go for less...didn't check what the cards looked like but this card does look like top dollar was paid....

The last 2 sold for 3200 and 3360. The one before that sold for 2800 is noticeably worse. I think the centering and top 2 corners will keep it from being a 5. He could send it to SCG and maybe get a bump to 4.5/55, but I don't see it being worth more than 3500-4000.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by rats60

The last 2 sold for 3200 and 3360. The one before that sold for 2800 is noticeably worse. I think the centering and top 2 corners will keep it from being a 5. He could send it to SCG and maybe get a bump to 4.5/55, but I don't see it being worth more than 3500-4000.

right you would think could do a direct deal in the mid 3000s at least...that a 1000 dollar difference on a card worth under 5000....sgc 4.5s aren't really valued at auction more than psa 4s .plus half grades don't occur often I would never count on getting a half grade .

[Donscards]

I have been buying a lot of cards lately and you have to pay the prices if you want good stuff---I just purchased a T206 Green Cobb SGC 60 yesterday---I paid around $37-3800 since it was a package deal Also got a SGC 70 Red Cobb in the deal $6500 for the pair---I know we would all like to get cards at lower prices, but it just isn't happening---Most buying now is auction houses, shows, Collectors selling out---And if you are buying, stuff is not cheap. Thanks and lets keep buying.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Donscards

I have been buying a lot of cards lately and you have to pay the prices if you want good stuff---I just purchased a T206 Green Cobb SGC 60 yesterday---I paid around $37-3800 since it was a package deal Also got a SGC 70 Red Cobb in the deal $6500 for the pair---I know we would all like to get cards at lower prices, but it just isn't happening---Most buying now is auction houses, shows, Collectors selling out---And if you are buying, stuff is not cheap. Thanks and lets keep buying.

Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!

the money total is a large package..so profit to the seller the same if 10 cards if total money the same etc.... so I understand why don is saying was a package deal..


I like to go by sales auction history ....also apples and oranges..is psa v sgc same grade..they just don't sell for the same in most cases in 2014+ in my experience......

[Donscards]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!

Peter I am not saying my 2 card deal is a big package---but these small buys do add up when you do them all the time!!---Last year I purchased a 1952 Topps set with all the stars graded---trust me, it wasnt a small package deal----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller magin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Donscards

Peter I am not saying my 2 card deal is a big package---but these small buys do add up when you do them all the time!!---Last year I purchased a 1952 Topps set with all the stars graded---trust me, it wasnt a small package deal----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller magin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

I certainly agree if u want quality...you have to pay for it...but in the grand scheme of things a green t206 cobb is pretty common...and they come up pretty often...and this price was unusually high...that's all.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Donscards

----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller margin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

Words of wisdom, right there.
The best cards are always in high demand and bring strong money. If you want them you pay for them. That is why we don't see them all of the time (because collectors keep them). Lot's of stuff circulates. Lot's of the best stuff doesn't.

[dzolot]

I agree with donscards and Leon. Based on my experience, sometimes you just have to pay up to get the card you love! If it's truly a special card that you 'need' for one reason or another, you will not have regrets even if it means paying an extra 10% or so...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by dzolot

I agree with donscards and Leon. Based on my experience, sometimes you just have to pay up to get the card you love! If it's truly a special card that you 'need' for one reason or another, you will not have regrets even if it means paying an extra 10% or so...

the only time you regret it is when you try to sell it as you wanted the card more than 'anyone else' so you would be selling now to 'everyone else'