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ullmandds 03-08-2015 08:31 PM

What do y'all think of this Green Cobb?
 
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This Green Cobby just sold on Ebay for $4500...a strong price for a seemingly gorgeous example.

My first impression was what a beautiful card...nicely centered...gorgeous color and good reg. Maybe it's worthy of a "bump?"

Then I started looking closer and I thought I saw 2 little creases one to the top left and the other to the right of cobbs head.

I zoomed in and decided the upper left looks ok...but the right side of his head looks odd to me?

What do you guys think about this price and card?

HOF Auto Rookies 03-08-2015 08:32 PM

Scratch or indentation?


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1952boyntoncollector 03-08-2015 08:35 PM

its a 4 its going to have some issues of course..but for its grade it looks really good....green cobb hasn't been available in a 4 in awhile...I don't think the next one will go for as much..plus you walking 500+ is pp/ebay fees.

Donscards 03-08-2015 08:39 PM

Centering is off top to bottom plus a little left to right but great color and registration---a very nice 4 I think it fell in the right price range---toughest Cobb to get of the 4 T206's.

1952boyntoncollector 03-08-2015 08:45 PM

a quck check of cardtarget shows last 3 ebay auctions are 2800-3300 (since march 2014) the other cobb poses go for less...didn't check what the cards looked like but this card does look like top dollar was paid....

bbsports 03-08-2015 09:21 PM

He also auctioned off a Cobb in a red portrait PSA 4 that had a crease about a half inch long on the front right side of the card that sold for just under $2K.

Jobu 03-08-2015 09:23 PM

I think you might be right on the light crease by the head, or at least a light scratch, tough to tell. There also appears to be a light smudge (maybe the scan though) on his left check (the right side of the card).

MVSNYC 03-08-2015 09:42 PM

why not ask the seller for higher res scans?

calvindog 03-08-2015 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bbsports (Post 1388695)
he also auctioned off a cobb in a red portrait psa 4 that had a crease about a half inch long on the front right side of the card that sold for just under $2k.

lol

gnaz01 03-09-2015 03:22 AM

I followed it Pete, and loved the card but waaaaaaay too strong a price, IMO.

MVSNYC 03-09-2015 07:20 AM

I assume whoever bought it, might crack it and submit to SGC hoping for a 60/5?

ullmandds 03-09-2015 07:32 AM

I haven't seen a price this strong for a similarly graded green cobb in years.

1952boyntoncollector 03-09-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1388752)
I haven't seen a price this strong for a similarly graded green cobb in years.

right and only more green cobbs added to POP over the years...someone was willing to overpay obviously..but time will tell on the next auction listings..

ullmandds 03-09-2015 07:41 AM

As per usual with some ebay sellers that seem to bring incredulous prices...while this was a nice card...I believe this will prove to be somewhat of an anomaly.

rats60 03-09-2015 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1388685)
a quck check of cardtarget shows last 3 ebay auctions are 2800-3300 (since march 2014) the other cobb poses go for less...didn't check what the cards looked like but this card does look like top dollar was paid....

The last 2 sold for 3200 and 3360. The one before that sold for 2800 is noticeably worse. I think the centering and top 2 corners will keep it from being a 5. He could send it to SCG and maybe get a bump to 4.5/55, but I don't see it being worth more than 3500-4000.

1952boyntoncollector 03-09-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1388764)
The last 2 sold for 3200 and 3360. The one before that sold for 2800 is noticeably worse. I think the centering and top 2 corners will keep it from being a 5. He could send it to SCG and maybe get a bump to 4.5/55, but I don't see it being worth more than 3500-4000.


right you would think could do a direct deal in the mid 3000s at least...that a 1000 dollar difference on a card worth under 5000....sgc 4.5s aren't really valued at auction more than psa 4s .plus half grades don't occur often I would never count on getting a half grade .

Donscards 03-09-2015 11:11 AM

I have been buying a lot of cards lately and you have to pay the prices if you want good stuff---I just purchased a T206 Green Cobb SGC 60 yesterday---I paid around $37-3800 since it was a package deal Also got a SGC 70 Red Cobb in the deal $6500 for the pair---I know we would all like to get cards at lower prices, but it just isn't happening---Most buying now is auction houses, shows, Collectors selling out---And if you are buying, stuff is not cheap. Thanks and lets keep buying.

ullmandds 03-09-2015 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Donscards (Post 1388834)
I have been buying a lot of cards lately and you have to pay the prices if you want good stuff---I just purchased a T206 Green Cobb SGC 60 yesterday---I paid around $37-3800 since it was a package deal Also got a SGC 70 Red Cobb in the deal $6500 for the pair---I know we would all like to get cards at lower prices, but it just isn't happening---Most buying now is auction houses, shows, Collectors selling out---And if you are buying, stuff is not cheap. Thanks and lets keep buying.

Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!:eek:

1952boyntoncollector 03-09-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1388846)
Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!:eek:

the money total is a large package..so profit to the seller the same if 10 cards if total money the same etc.... so I understand why don is saying was a package deal..


I like to go by sales auction history ....also apples and oranges..is psa v sgc same grade..they just don't sell for the same in most cases in 2014+ in my experience......

Donscards 03-09-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1388846)
Sure everyone would love to acquire the cards they want at "lower" prices.

That is not the issue here...the issue is the "correct" prices...if there is such a thing.

You're examples are case in point...you paid significantly less for much higher grade...even though a package deal...2 card package isn't really a big package!:eek:

Peter I am not saying my 2 card deal is a big package---but these small buys do add up when you do them all the time!!---Last year I purchased a 1952 Topps set with all the stars graded---trust me, it wasnt a small package deal----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller magin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

ullmandds 03-09-2015 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Donscards (Post 1388896)
Peter I am not saying my 2 card deal is a big package---but these small buys do add up when you do them all the time!!---Last year I purchased a 1952 Topps set with all the stars graded---trust me, it wasnt a small package deal----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller magin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

I certainly agree if u want quality...you have to pay for it...but in the grand scheme of things a green t206 cobb is pretty common...and they come up pretty often...and this price was unusually high...that's all.

Leon 03-10-2015 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Donscards (Post 1388896)
----What I am saying, if you want good stuff, you have to pay the going rate or higher. I buy as a dealer and pay top dollar with a smaller margin when I sell---But If I want nice cards, I pay for them.

Words of wisdom, right there.
The best cards are always in high demand and bring strong money. If you want them you pay for them. That is why we don't see them all of the time (because collectors keep them). Lot's of stuff circulates. Lot's of the best stuff doesn't.

dzolot 03-10-2015 08:28 PM

I agree with donscards and Leon. Based on my experience, sometimes you just have to pay up to get the card you love! If it's truly a special card that you 'need' for one reason or another, you will not have regrets even if it means paying an extra 10% or so...

1952boyntoncollector 03-22-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dzolot (Post 1389357)
I agree with donscards and Leon. Based on my experience, sometimes you just have to pay up to get the card you love! If it's truly a special card that you 'need' for one reason or another, you will not have regrets even if it means paying an extra 10% or so...

the only time you regret it is when you try to sell it as you wanted the card more than 'anyone else' so you would be selling now to 'everyone else'


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