OT Red Sox/Tigers and Cardinals/Dodgers

[perezfan]

Yeah, but he's thrown a lot of pitches. What a dilemma for Leland, if he still has a no-no through 8 innings, but has thrown 130+ pitches. They'll need him later in the series, so they may not let him finish

[conor912]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Yeah, but he's thrown a lot of pitches. What a dilemma for Leland, if he still has a no-no through 8 innings, but has thrown 130+ pitches. They'll need him later in the series, so they may not let him finish

Yeah, he's out. I wonder how many postseason pitchers have been yanked with a no-no intact.

[Vol]

Red Sox couldnt get to the Tigers tonight. Excellent pitching (how about Veras wicked curve balls?) and some favorable borderline calls from Joe West.

Now they have to deal with Scherzer and Mr. Verlander.

[jcmtiger]

Great game for the Tiger pitchers tonight, lost track but I think 16 strikeouts. 9 hits for Detroit, but we left to many men on base. But, a Great win at Boston to put them in a hole, with our best pitchers in the next 2 games.

Joe

[conor912]

Originally Posted by VOLnVEGAS

Red Sox couldnt get to the Tigers tonight. Excellent pitching (how about Veras wicked curve balls?) and some favorable borderline calls from Joe West.

Now they have to deal with Scherzer and Mr. Verlander.

Yeah, West was all over the f*ing place tonight. Not a good game for him, by any means. That said, the Sox failed to adjust and just took too many good pitches.

[nolemmings]

Joe West didn't cost Boston squat. They squared up 2-3 balls all night and managed one bloop single. They struck out 17 times, and kept looking for the umps to bail them out. Fox trax or whatever it's called, while not perfect, showed that West was right far more often than not and that even the misses were borderline. My only criticism of Joe West is that he didn't toss that whiny puke Victorino after the second hissy-fit he threw.

Tigers were the better team tonight, and won despite Leyland, who should just go into the clubhouse after the 6th inning and smoke until he passes out.

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by conor912

Yeah, West was all over the f*ing place tonight. Not a good game for him, by any means. That said, the Sox failed to adjust and just took too many good pitches.

I thought Joe West did a fine job. He missed only a couple calls all night and they went both ways (some for Boston, some for Detroit).

Buster Olney reported after the game that the Red Sox were frustrated. They couldn't read Sanchez, at times taking out their frustrations on home plate umpire Joe West. Buster continued to explain how some of the players viewed replay of the suspect bad calls and came to the conclusion that the right calls were made. Shane Victorino, for example, (after watching replay of his at bats) was reported to say "a couple of those that I thought he got wrong, he got right". The Red Sox seemed to disagree with not only Joe West at home, but also the 1st & 3rd base umpires on partial swings. It began to get old after awhile.

It was a pretty intense game to watch, looking forward to game 2.

[freakhappy]

Very exciting postseason so far...definitely the best four teams IMO.

I enjoy watching good pitching...that's baseball at it's best! I'm sure we will see some offense sooner rather than later from these clubs. Far too talented lineups for these teams not to eventually hit.

Whoever makes it to the Series, it should be a great matchup!

[yanks12025]

Last night shows what type of character the Red Sox and their fans are. Nothing but cry babies, they booed and chanted a**hole at the ump when he was actually making correct calls. Or they chanted steroids for peralta but cheered for Ortiz.

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Last night shows what type of character the Red Sox and their fans are. Nothing but cry babies, they booed and chanted a**hole at the ump when he was actually making correct calls. Or they chanted steroids for peralta but cheered for Ortiz.

How about them Yanks? Oops, wrong postseason.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by johnmh71

How about them Yanks? Oops, wrong postseason.

I'd rather not make the postseason, then be embarrassed like the Sox's were last night.

[Ladder7]

What do hemorrhoids and a Yankees cap have in common?

Eventually, every A-hole gets one.

[billyb]

After the last two Tiger games, the starting staff is going into today's game with a lot of confidence, not good news for the Red Sox.

[Joe_G.]

Momentum can swing game to game, inning to inning. Boston has a very potent offense. I hope we don't see a return of the offense we saw September 4th. Everyone Detroit brought in to pitch was hammered at will with the result being 20 runs in 8 innings.

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxsco...boston-red-sox

[scooter729]

I was at Fenway last night (early this morning) and that was as frustrating a time I've spent at the park in a long time. Their inability to hit Sanchez had me very nervous now for this series, knowing what arms are in the queue for Detroit.

Lets hope the Sox can get back on track tonight!

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I'd rather not make the postseason, then be embarrassed like the Sox's were last night.

Better for one game than a whole season.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Joe West didn't cost Boston squat. They squared up 2-3 balls all night and managed one bloop single. They struck out 17 times, and kept looking for the umps to bail them out. Fox trax or whatever it's called, while not perfect, showed that West was right far more often than not and that even the misses were borderline. My only criticism of Joe West is that he didn't toss that whiny puke Victorino after the second hissy-fit he threw.

Tigers were the better team tonight, and won despite Leyland, who should just go into the clubhouse after the 6th inning and smoke until he passes out.

Not saying West cost them the game. Tigers pitching won that game. I was saying, however, that his zone last night was noticeably larger than in the past. He has historically been known to have a zone the size of a postage stamp. As a Sox fan, I found Boston's inability to adjust hard to watch. Sanchez owned them, for sure.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I'd rather not make the postseason, then be embarrassed like the Sox's were last night.

Really?

You rather play a whole season and not make the playoffs than endure one one-hit game in the playoffs after having already won one playoff series?

That is certainly an interesting take.

I could care less who wins the series but come on.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I'd rather not make the postseason, then be embarrassed like the Sox's were last night.

I can see how you would feel that way...probably reminds you of how the Yankees felt when they were utterly embarrassed by Arizona in 2001...better they never even made the postseason than look so stupid. Two games in a row to start the series getting schooled by Schilling and Johnson...humiliating.

Probably better for you to just watch the Yankees highlights from 2013...a year long retirement party topped with a giant helping of fraud, childishness, epic selfishness and infighting.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Bosox Blair

topped with a giant helping of fraud, childishness, epic selfishness and infighting.

Also sounds like the 2011-2012 Red Sox.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Also sounds like the 2011-2012 Red Sox. Ortiz is eons more of a fraud than Rodriguez.

Not sure that's possible.

[yanks12025]

David steroids with a grand slam. Pretty sad cheaters help decide games. Love how fenway fans cheer for their cheater but god forbid another teams players cheated and he gets booed and steroids chanted.

[ullmandds]

Detroits wheels have fallen off!

[mets41]

Go Cards! Go Sox!

[Ladder7]

Sour grapes DO make the best whine

[conor912]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Detroits wheels have fallen off!

I still can't believe what I just saw.

[billyb]

Well,
Jim Leyland did it again. Over managed his bullpen. What an idiot. This manager has done this before and with same results. Someone on this thread said it correctly yesterday, at the end of a game, Leyland should go back in the dugout and smoke his cigarettes and forget about making any calls.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Ladder7

Sour grapes DO make the best whine

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

at least i'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

2004*
2007*

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

You`re right I admit it, I`d rather the Sox had been out of it and never made the playoffs at all rather than suffer this weekend`s shameful showing ! P S Throw the Patriots in there with them, embarrassing.

[Ladder7]

Team chases down Salty, after driving in game winning ribby!

[HRBAKER]

This thread has serious entertainment value. Of course Ortiz is cheating, he gets to bat without playing the field.

I guess nobody ever gets booed at Yankee Stadium?

Been there once I can't remember.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

Someone needs a hug

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

Yeah, well I heard that Jeter sliced two shots into the woods on the back nine yesterday, so nobody's perfect.....

[toledo_mudhen]

Do the Cards have a bullpen or what!!!!!!!

Haven't been this excited about the playoffs in many years.

Way to go MLB - you haven't created this kind of stir in a long time

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

Barely splitting two games? Guess one could say the same of the Tigers since the aggregate run count for both teams was the same.

Nothing like fanboy vitriol.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

Hey,

Remember how the geriatric Yankees got swept out of the ALCS by these same Tigers one year ago? And couldn't get a run off Sanchez? I do. Must have been so embarrassing for Yankees fans...

[Jason Carota]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

At least I'm willing to admit our players cheated unlike hypocrite sox fans. Also enjoy the new record of 32 strikes in 2 games and barely splitting 2 games at home.

Are you sure you entered your correct location you registered here?


With all of the celebration last night, how about Hunter's effort? He was REAL close to making an amazing catch.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Cardinals fans will disagree, but as a long-suffering Reds fan, I had to rant.

No disrespect intended, perezfan, but how are Reds fans "long suffering"? At least you went to the Series, and won it all in 1990. Try being a Brewers fan. The last time Milwaukee celebrated a World Series win...I wasn't even born. And it was a different franchise.

And yes, I realize that a Cubs fan will be along shortly to tap me on the shoulder, saying "cry me a river. You think Brewers fans are long suffering? Come spend a day with me at Wrigley. A never-ending funeral marches around our hearts."

As for the playoffs, once the A's and Pirates went out, I lost all interest. I'll watch the Series because I'm a baseball fan, but if the Cardinals win it all again, I'll shove a fork in one of my eyes. I greatly respect the history of the franchise, and their fans are incredibly knowledgeable, but seeing them win it time and time again while my team comes out of the gate, and falls flat on their faces, just gets old. The Cardinals sport the nicest "Air Jordans" every year. The Brewers come out in their floppy shoes accompanied to the sounds of old car horns.

[HRBAKER]

As we learned earlier in the thread, it's all luck. The Cardinals are the luckiest team going. They never have any bad breaks. They went from 1987 until 2004 without appearing in a WS, that's 17 years. IN 1985 they lost their leadoff hitter and NL Rookie of the Year Vince Coleman for the WS when a tarp rolled up on his ankle and he suffered some sort of ligament damage. Then in Game 6 of that series they were the recipients of a call at First Base that was every bit as bad as the "infield fly" call last year which most likely cost them the Series.

In the last 30 years they have been in the WS six times and are 3-3, must not of had much luck half the time.

Cry me a river. Go make your own luck. That's my rant.

[the 'stache]

The Cardinals are an incredibly well run organization. It's not a coincidence that Baseball America named St. Louis as having the best organizational talent in Major League Baseball prior to the 2013 season. They are great evaluators of young talent (I'd kill to have their scouts in Milwaukee), and they develop their players as well as any other franchise in the bigs.

As a Brewer fan, I now get to look forward to Oscar Taveras kicking our rear ends for the next 15 years. Oh joy, lol.

[chaddurbin]

now the cards are butthurt because of the dodgers "mickey mouse" celebration for finally scoring some runs, this despite the fact molina doing a jumping fist pump seemingly after every inning. the hypocritical holier-than-thou attitude of some teams are nauseating.

chappy mcchapass wants the game to played the right way...when it's not applied to them.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Jason Carota

With all of the celebration last night, how about Hunter's effort? He was REAL close to making an amazing catch.

I agree. I am from Boston but 100% give credit where it's due. I'm glad he's ok. The cop in the bullpen has become a minor celebrity around town. This was the paper yesterday.

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...ent_goes_viral

Anyway, another amazing game today. Lackey stepped up big time.

[yanks12025]

Tigers choke a win away and looks like they will choke this series away. Should be up 3-0, instead down 2-1 to the gross beards.

[Ladder7]

Don't sulk little fella. There's always next year.

[yanks12025]

I'm not worried, you guys aren't winning the World Series either way. I'll even bet on it!

[GoldenAge50s]

Your bitterness & jealousy is showing! Too bad, because you are missing out on enjoying some fantastic Playoff baseball by all teams involved.

Some yrs I'm sad when the Red Sox aren't there, but it doesn't spoil my enjoyment of watching the teams that are fight it out!

[mets41]

I'm rooting for the Cards in the NLCS because I remember 1964.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

Your bitterness & jealousy is showing! Too bad, because you are missing out on enjoying some fantastic Playoff baseball by all teams involved.

Some yrs I'm sad when the Red Sox aren't there, but it doesn't spoil my enjoyment of watching the teams that are fight it out!

I'm sorry but there's nothing to be jealous of the red sox's.

[CharleyBrown]

As a Yankees fan, it pains me to say this, but I am actually pulling for the Red Sox this year... they are scrappy as hell and really hustle. I could only wish most of the Yankees played this way.