The hobby is surely passing me by

[Peter_Spaeth]

Sometimes you've got to say....

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx

[chriskim]

if I am willing to spend $32k on NFT, i rather get a LeBron James drunk NFT.

[mrreality68]

That is not for me either.
But obviously someone was interested enough to pay that much.

[Eric72]

"A fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place."

- Harry Anderson Hello, Sucker 1986

[abothebear]

So these NFTs are crypto-shares of an actual thing? or a virtual thing? this silly frog Wagner, does it exist in time and space? And if so, I understand how people can trade the shares, and how the shares might go up or down based on demand for those shares, but where does the card live? Who is its caretaker? Is there a majority owner? How would anyone know if it went missing or never even existed? If you bought all the shares can you get the card?

[Tabe]

Am a little surprised Goldin sold this. Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy. Would they sell Wagner in a KKK hood? I mean, they can sell whatever they want, I'm just surprised.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Am a little surprised Goldin sold this. Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy. Would they sell Wagner in a KKK hood? I mean, they can sell whatever they want, I'm just surprised.

I had the same reaction.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Am a little surprised Goldin sold this. Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy. Would they sell Wagner in a KKK hood? I mean, they can sell whatever they want, I'm just surprised.

That is a bunch of bullshit. People can put anything on a meme and have it mean something different. Of course anybody putting a Hitler mustache on him, or swastika etc.....then yes, that is racist. A pure Pepe is not racist. He is a frog. I love frogs. Leave him alone. Putting Pepe on a Wags isn't racist.
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[h2oya311]

watch this to "get learned" on Pepe:

https://www.businessinsider.com/pepe...esters-2019-10

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Leon

That is a bunch of bullshit. People can put anything on a meme and have it mean something different. Of course anybody putting a Hitler mustache on him, or swastika etc.....then yes, that is racist. A pure Pepe is not racist. He is a frog. I love frogs. Leave him alone. Putting Pepe on a Wags isn't racist.
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I didn't say the image as drawn was racist. But, facts are facts - Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacists. Sometimes benign images or symbols get co-opted - such as the swastika. I was expressing surprise that an image that has been co-opted was being sold by Goldin. You're making a distinction where one doesn't exist.

Lemme just re-emphasize, Goldin can do whatever they want. I honestly don't care one way or the other if they sell it. But I am surprised.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...htmlstory.html

https://www.statepress.com/article/2...hite-supremacy

https://www.vox.com/2016/9/21/128936...g-donald-trump

[dbrown]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Am a little surprised Goldin sold this. Pepe the Frog has been co-opted as a symbol of white supremacy. Would they sell Wagner in a KKK hood? I mean, they can sell whatever they want, I'm just surprised.

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

[MattyC]

If that NFT of the Wagner is not the hobby jumping the shark, I don't know what is. The only other equivalent-magnitude shark jumping I can think of is PSA debasing itself by slabbing the doodles of that internet false-profit snake oil salesman Gary V. Together, those two events say a lot about where the hobby is, and how desperate a money play it is for some people. Thankfully, for many of us, it is still about collecting cards we find beautiful of a sport we love.

[68Hawk]

Originally Posted by dbrown

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

Not sure a man who celebrates a cdv of men in black face as one of his favorite pieces is exactly gonna be your shining knight in this moment.
That's alright though, older caucasian men are always the last to see the value of change - hence their lawns are always looking good.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by dbrown

100% agree. Pepe is the mascot of American dipshit white supremacy and anti-semitism now. Whoever made this NFT was completely aware of what Pepe means. Whoever bought it probably does too.

I remember when Leon ran that Stormfront guy out of here several years ago. Those were the days.


David

He wasn't run out of here...he was still posting, buying, selling and trading up until he just recently passed away.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by abothebear

So these NFTs are crypto-shares of an actual thing? or a virtual thing? this silly frog Wagner, does it exist in time and space? And if so, I understand how people can trade the shares, and how the shares might go up or down based on demand for those shares, but where does the card live? Who is its caretaker? Is there a majority owner? How would anyone know if it went missing or never even existed? If you bought all the shares can you get the card?

I think it's just digital, and the significance of the token is that it gives you ownership, but someone younger and cooler than me can probably answer better.

[Bobbycee]

A lot of stupid people doing stupid things with their money.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Looks to me like someone spent $31k on a piece of clip art. Imagine all the real baseball cards that could have purchased!

[Jewish-collector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sometimes you've got to say....

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx

Peter - You didn't finish the statement. It's "Sometimes you just gotta say "WTF"

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Peter - You didn't finish the statement. It's "Sometimes you just gotta say "WTF"

Alan, it was implied, but yes.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sometimes you've got to say....

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx

Yeah I really do not get it either but I understand the appeal of it to the new breed of hobbyist or CIF (Collector-Investor-Flipper). I am far too much a traditionalist with my collecting approaches to ever find this enticing or even interesting.

[Mark17]

I'm waiting for Curly of the Three Stooges to be featured on the Wagner card. That nun-fungible asset would easily top 50k. And, my goodness, if it was animated with a soundtrack ("wu-wu-wu-wu-wu") it might go into 6 figures.

[brianp-beme]

WTNFT world are we living in?

Brian

[Rhotchkiss]

Talk about tax reform… whoever is willing to pay $31k for that should have to pay a one-time, stupidity excise tax of 50% the purchase price; so long as the IRS allows that lucky buyer to recapture that tax when the buyer eventually sells it for a huge loss and/or writes it off as a total loss.

[Snapolit1]

Seems insane to me.

But then again, no doubt I would have been one of those folks in 1970 saying “holy crap…. Some idiot just spent $10,000 on a small card board picture of Honus Wagner …. What the hell is wrong with people!!”

I guess you don’t know how stupid anything really is until some time has passed.