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Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?
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Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?
As much as I love the set and would love to own the entire set. I would most definitely sell it.

$$$ I can get more T206 with it and let alone more important things like a house for my son, fiance, and I.

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Probably keep...enjoy owning it, and then pass it down to my son.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:41 AM
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Sell it and completely retire.

I am in the minority and think the T206 is a ugly set so if the $ stayed in cards I would sell it and own the nicest complete T210 set I could afford with the proceeds.
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With my current financial situation, I would most surely sell. I would first make sure my 2 children have their colleges paid for. Then I would buy a few T3's and T206's and smartly invest the remaining to help my kids when they go to buy homes of their own.
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I would keep it for a while, but ultimately I would have to sell it. It would be hard to justify keeping a baseball card worth twice what my house is worth, or more.
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Sell. I couldn't afford to keep it properly. What would I do, put it in my box of cards?
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What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.
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Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?
Sell it. No questions about it. The lowest priced one is worth more than the house my family of 6 currently reside in.

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What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.
Let the seller know and just hope they felt the knowledge was worth a finder's fee if they then chose to continue with the sell.
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What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.
Good question. I would go with option 3. If the estate/garage sale was in a poor/middle class neighborhood option 1 without hesitation. Estate sale in a high end neighborhood option 2 without hesitation.
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Sell .... in a heartbeat!

I would then buy a real nice 51B and 52T Mantle (in mid grade), pay off the mortgage, and put the rest away
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I would make sure it became designated as the

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then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card ,

and buy a tropical prewar island.
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I couldn't sell it fast enough.
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id enjoy it for a spell...then sell and buy my dream house!
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I would make sure it became designated as the

"Burke++ Wagner"

then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card ,

and buy a tropical prewar island.
You could give it to me and then I would have a monster number of 1160.

As a Pirates fan and someone with 522 different T206's, I would definitely keep it.
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I would make sure it became designated as the

"Burke++ Wagner"

then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card ,

and buy a tropical prewar island.

Frank, I'm all in for a tropical prewar island, as long as Tattoo says "Da card! Da Card!" each time new auction winnings arrive.

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Keep it for a week, then sell that Wagner!!!
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When my dad obtained his first Wagner in 1972 he immediately called my mother from a pay phone. He found it among T206's he purchased in a large lot for twenty cents each. It was also one of the last cards he needed to complete the set, so he was pretty excited.

He held that one until 1974 when he upgraded to a better one and sold off the original. Here they are below:



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When my dad obtained his first Wagner in 1972 he immediately called my mother from a pay phone. He found it among T206's he purchased in a large lot for twenty cents each. It was also one of the last cards he needed to complete the set, so he was pretty excited.

He held that one until 1974 when he upgraded to a better one and sold off the original. Here they are below:






What the crap??

Didn't the Wagner have some value in the early 70's... Maybe 1-2k??

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When my dad obtained his first Wagner in 1972 he immediately called my mother from a pay phone. He found it among T206's he purchased in a large lot for twenty cents each. It was also one of the last cards he needed to complete the set, so he was pretty excited.



He held that one until 1974 when he upgraded to a better one and sold off the original. Here they are below:








First Wagner (the trimmed one) looks like the same that Keith Olbermann can be found showing ballplayers at Citi Field in a YouTube video. The second appears to be what's known as the "jumbo Wagner" that is PSA 5 MC. Which likely looks very similar to the way the Gretzky / McNall / Gidwitz / Walmart / now Ken Kendrick PSA 8 Wagner looked before good old Bill Mastro put it under the exacto knife.

Is the PSA 5 jumbo given the "MC" designation because it's oversized (even thought that was natural and it was not "cut" per se...)? If so seems a bit odd to me that it's the card labeled "MC" while the PSA 8 Wagner still resides in a plastic tomb with no qualifiers. That one by the way has been re-stabbed at least once - photos of the original PSA case exist from the early 1990's where the 0's in the serial number have slashes through them...

Again, if you are missing my point it's just interesting to me that the most famous and valuable baseball card in the world is to at least some extent a total fraud - and that the first card PSA ever graded doesn't even meet their own professed standards. I guess what is "good for the hobby" has to be taken into consideration, and at the end of the day it's all the more interesting as part of the Wagner card's lore...


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To keep it I would have to hide it from my wife. $$$$$ are more important to her sometimes. I would have a stipulation I get to keep 25% of the final sale price to use for my collection. Probably buy a few rare OJs and a nice alternate Wagner, E103 E90-2 or D322, for my collection!!
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Sell it, buy my one white whale (1/10th value of wags) and use the rest to build up a decent retirement fund.
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Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?
I'm not sure what the big deal would be...dudes are on EBAY every day with a found Wagner from Pa's attic.
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Grade, then sell. Buy some sweet cards for a total or 3 or 4k afterwards, then let the rest sit in a bank account and collect interest. Finding the right bank, I could get at least 25k a year simply from interest. That would allow me to still have a job and have financial stability!
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What would you do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic?
First thing I'd do is keep searching in grand pappy's attic. Maybe a case of 52 hi# Topps or a paper bag filled with Cobb/Cobb cards could be there as well.

Seriously, I would take a hundred pictures of it to prove all the future naysayers that I once owned it, then sell it, put 5% back into my collection and invest the rest for eventual retirement so I could someday have some time to really enjoy collecting.

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How about assuming its a decent mid grade Wagner I find I could sell it and downgrade to the worst Wagner possible and use the extra cash for a T210 or two. JJ in particular.
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Since the T206 Wagner is such a small card I would probably just end up throwing it back into the lake.

But seriously, I would almost instantly start shopping it around to auction houses.
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I would get with Joe O and hype the heck out of it on all forms of social media for awhile and then put it on eBay for $19.5 million BIN
I would certainly include the story in my description about finding it in grandpas attic because that is so popular. Then someone would offer me 20.5 mill and I would let it go regretfully. I would then buy an Aston Martin Vanquish and an island.
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I would get with Joe O and hype the heck out of it on all forms of social media for awhile and then put it on eBay for $19.5 million BIN
I would certainly include the story in my description about finding it in grandpas attic because that is so popular. Then someone would offer me 20.5 mill and I would let it go regretfully. I would then buy an Aston Martin Vanquish and an island.
nice plan...ill come visit with my e121 babe ruth...but you'd better buy a big island...or a smaller engined car!!!!!
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Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?

I'd put it in an inch thick screw-down case, and invite my friends Whitey and Larry Mondello over to see it, and charge them a dollar apiece for the privilege.

...and if this were 1960 and I lived in the world of TV-Land make believe, I WOULD do that! But seriously. The crappiest example of that card in existence would probably allow me to payoff my mortgage or put a serious chunk of cash toward John's "Retire Early / Go To Hell" Fund...either of which would make the practical reality of keeping the card for any length of time very unlikely and a very poor decision at best. Heck, the people back in the 90's who won the Gretzky Wagner when Walmart gave it away had to sell it for sake of the simple fact that they couldn't afford to pay the tax on it...

In my case the consolation prize would likely have to be an agreement with my wife and financial advisor that goes something like this: "Okay, if I sell this card for $300 grand and payoff the house, you will agree that it's certainly reasonable that I take $5,000 of that and blow it on cards for myself...right? Please? Ah...honey?"


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