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coolshemp 03-22-2016 10:27 AM

If you found a Wagner...
 
Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?

Joshchisox08 03-22-2016 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1517884)
Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?

As much as I love the set and would love to own the entire set. I would most definitely sell it.

$$$ I can get more T206 with it and let alone more important things like a house for my son, fiance, and I.

Interesting and cool question idea.

MVSNYC 03-22-2016 10:38 AM

Probably keep...enjoy owning it, and then pass it down to my son.

shernan30 03-22-2016 10:39 AM

To keep it I would have to hide it from my wife. $$$$$ are more important to her sometimes. I would have a stipulation I get to keep 25% of the final sale price to use for my collection. Probably buy a few rare OJs and a nice alternate Wagner, E103 E90-2 or D322, for my collection!!

bnorth 03-22-2016 10:41 AM

Sell it and completely retire.:D

I am in the minority and think the T206 is a ugly set so if the $ stayed in cards I would sell it and own the nicest complete T210 set I could afford with the proceeds.

philliesfan 03-22-2016 10:55 AM

With my current financial situation, I would most surely sell. I would first make sure my 2 children have their colleges paid for. Then I would buy a few T3's and T206's and smartly invest the remaining to help my kids when they go to buy homes of their own.
Robert

pokerplyr80 03-22-2016 10:55 AM

I would keep it for a while, but ultimately I would have to sell it. It would be hard to justify keeping a baseball card worth twice what my house is worth, or more.

edjs 03-22-2016 10:56 AM

Sell:(. I couldn't afford to keep it properly. What would I do, put it in my box of cards?

HOF Auto Rookies 03-22-2016 11:03 AM

Sell it after a year or so to fund my true collection, bills etc


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insidethewrapper 03-22-2016 11:03 AM

What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.

frankbmd 03-22-2016 11:04 AM

I would make sure it became designated as the

"Burke++ Wagner"

then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card :D:D,

and buy a tropical prewar island.

bn2cardz 03-22-2016 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1517884)
Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?

Sell it. No questions about it. The lowest priced one is worth more than the house my family of 6 currently reside in.

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 1517897)
What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.

Let the seller know and just hope they felt the knowledge was worth a finder's fee if they then chose to continue with the sell.

bnorth 03-22-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper (Post 1517897)
What would you do if you found it at a garage or estate sell etc and the owner didn't know what they had ? Would you 1) tell them the value of it ? , 2) Buy it for a few dollars and both the seller and buyer are happy with the transaction.

Good question. I would go with option 3. If the estate/garage sale was in a poor/middle class neighborhood option 1 without hesitation. Estate sale in a high end neighborhood option 2 without hesitation.

Section103 03-22-2016 11:16 AM

I couldn't sell it fast enough.

atx840 03-22-2016 11:18 AM

Sell it, buy my one white whale (1/10th value of wags) and use the rest to build up a decent retirement fund.

TCMA 03-22-2016 11:19 AM

When my dad obtained his first Wagner in 1972 he immediately called my mother from a pay phone. He found it among T206's he purchased in a large lot for twenty cents each. It was also one of the last cards he needed to complete the set, so he was pretty excited.

He held that one until 1974 when he upgraded to a better one and sold off the original. Here they are below:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1446/...a402bdf189.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1566/...d0e80dd82b.jpg

bobbyw8469 03-22-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Section103 (Post 1517904)
I couldn't sell it fast enough.

What if I told you you could sell it for $1 million today or $5 million in 4 years. Could you not wait 4 measly years?

TCMA 03-22-2016 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1517907)
What if I told you you could sell it for $1 million today or $5 million in 4 years. Could you not wait 4 measly years?

Yup, that'd be the smart move.

ullmandds 03-22-2016 11:23 AM

id enjoy it for a spell...then sell and buy my dream house!

bnorth 03-22-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1517907)
What if I told you you could sell it for $1 million today or $5 million in 4 years. Could you not wait 4 measly years?

Personally I would sell today. In 4 measly years I could be dead, car crash, cancer, or a plethora of other really bad things could happen in that time. The old 1 bird in the hand is better than 4 in the bush thing.:)

pokerplyr80 03-22-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1517907)
What if I told you you could sell it for $1 million today or $5 million in 4 years. Could you not wait 4 measly years?

I'd ask where you are getting your information from, and if you had some good stock tips as well.

Louieman 03-22-2016 11:32 AM

No doubt I'd sell it. I don't trust the market for the Wagner to simply keep increasing in value forever and ever and ever. Plus I don't even like the look of it. I could maximize my own collection with a tiny amount of the profits, and not have to worry about money for the rest of my life. Easy, easy answer for me.

bobbyw8469 03-22-2016 11:39 AM

[IMG]I'd ask where you are getting your information from, and if you had some good stock tips as well.[/IMG]
LOL...just looking at past prices and guesstimating future prices. Certain cards (this one, 1952 Topps Mantle, etc), have NEVER gone down in value. Not saying they can't....just looking at what they have done in the past.

rats60 03-22-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1517898)
I would make sure it became designated as the

"Burke++ Wagner"

then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card :D:D,

and buy a tropical prewar island.

You could give it to me and then I would have a monster number of 1160.

As a Pirates fan and someone with 522 different T206's, I would definitely keep it.

Rich Klein 03-22-2016 12:10 PM

I'd call LEON since he has all the contacts, tell him its 10 percent to him and let him sell the darn card

coolshemp 03-22-2016 12:28 PM

Great answers! Kinda (very) hypothetical, but fun to dream about, like winning powerball!

Jeffrompa 03-22-2016 12:34 PM

I would troll the site for a couple years showing it as a fake . Then put it on EBay starting at 99 cents .

Joshwesley 03-22-2016 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TCMA (Post 1517906)
When my dad obtained his first Wagner in 1972 he immediately called my mother from a pay phone. He found it among T206's he purchased in a large lot for twenty cents each. It was also one of the last cards he needed to complete the set, so he was pretty excited.

He held that one until 1974 when he upgraded to a better one and sold off the original. Here they are below:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1446/...a402bdf189.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1566/...d0e80dd82b.jpg




What the crap??

Didn't the Wagner have some value in the early 70's... Maybe 1-2k??

4815162342 03-22-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1517898)
I would make sure it became designated as the

"Burke++ Wagner"

then I would increase the Monster Number value of this card to 480,

then I would sell it as the only MN premium card :D:D,

and buy a tropical prewar island.


Frank, I'm all in for a tropical prewar island, as long as Tattoo says "Da card! Da Card!" each time new auction winnings arrive.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...4a7e48cb05.jpg

edjs 03-22-2016 12:54 PM

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By the way, I did just find my Wagner. Not the one we are talking about, but pretty tough. If only scarcity=astronomical price! :D

Section103 03-22-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1517920)
[IMG]I'd ask where you are getting your information from, and if you had some good stock tips as well.[/IMG]
LOL...just looking at past prices and guesstimating future prices. Certain cards (this one, 1952 Topps Mantle, etc), have NEVER gone down in value. Not saying they can't....just looking at what they have done in the past.

Its a bit of a false equivalency. I could also sell it now, invest every nickel of the proceeds and hope to outgrow the value of the card 4 years down the road. You can make money in cards and you can lose your rear in cards too. Not many financial analysts tout cards as the wisest investment approach and that's not entirely without reason.

At a minimum, I can invest to hedge against the risk of a value drop or stagnation.

TCMA 03-22-2016 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1517939)
What the crap??

Didn't the Wagner have some value in the early 70's... Maybe 1-2k??

It did. My father brokered a deal to sell one for someone in 1973 for $1100. And then he purchased the "Jumbo" Wagner for $1300 - $1500 in 1974 after he drove to VT from NY to follow up on a lead for one. Prices rose exponentially from there.

mechanicalman 03-22-2016 01:47 PM

First I would trim it, re-skin with a Cobb back, and then have it graded by GAI. Then, I'd consign it to Legendary, shill the heck out of the auction, only to win it back and put it on eBay for an obnoxious BIN price (and free shipping.) All of this in hopes of being the subject of the #1 thread ever on Net54. ;)

Joshwesley 03-22-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by edjs (Post 1517942)
By the way, I did just find my Wagner. Not the one we are talking about, but pretty tough. If only scarcity=astronomical price! :D

As a born and raised "mobilian" what's the story with the Wagner kid that played for mobile?

Really cool piece!

iwantitiwinit 03-22-2016 02:50 PM

Thats a good question. If you are working on a t206 set and are lucky enough to have or receive a wagner I think it only makes sense you keep it. If you decide you are going to sell it I figure you might as well sell all other t206's you have I mean u had the ultimate prize and decided to sell it no use keeping the rest of the cards.

familytoad 03-22-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1517884)
Since this is the season of great finds, I was wondering what most of you would do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic? Would you keep it and finish your T206 set or sell it for the million or so dollars?

I'm not sure what the big deal would be...dudes are on EBAY every day with a found Wagner from Pa's attic.

njdunkin1 03-22-2016 03:21 PM

Grade, then sell. Buy some sweet cards for a total or 3 or 4k afterwards, then let the rest sit in a bank account and collect interest. Finding the right bank, I could get at least 25k a year simply from interest. That would allow me to still have a job and have financial stability!

edjs 03-22-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshwesley (Post 1517971)
As a born and raised "mobilian" what's the story with the Wagner kid that played for mobile?

Really cool piece!

Josh, I don't want to completely hi-jack someone's thread, but take a look at the T211 thread, you will get a bunch of info about this set.

Ed

gemmint77 03-22-2016 03:32 PM

IF I found a T206 Wagner
 
Keep it for a week, then sell that Wagner!!!

tab 03-22-2016 05:21 PM

I would keep it for as long as I could! Then I would have to sell it at some point. I would also be afraid of burglary if someone found out about it. Hard to enjoy it if it's locked up in a bank vault.

I could only hope that I would find two. One to keep and one to sell.:D

shernan30 03-22-2016 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrompa (Post 1517937)
I would troll the site for a couple years showing it as a fake . Then put it on EBay starting at 99 cents .


The best I've heard. Are you going to take the photo in front of a mirror? Someone has an example of that picture around here.


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53Browns 03-22-2016 07:20 PM

Steven wins~ LOL!!

almostdone 03-22-2016 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by coolshemp (Post 1517884)
What would you do if you were lucky enough to find a Wagner T206 in grand pappy's attic?

First thing I'd do is keep searching in grand pappy's attic. Maybe a case of 52 hi# Topps or a paper bag filled with Cobb/Cobb cards could be there as well. :D

Seriously, I would take a hundred pictures of it to prove all the future naysayers that I once owned it, then sell it, put 5% back into my collection and invest the rest for eventual retirement so I could someday have some time to really enjoy collecting.

Drew

Piratedogcardshows 03-22-2016 11:15 PM

How about assuming its a decent mid grade Wagner I find I could sell it and downgrade to the worst Wagner possible and use the extra cash for a T210 or two. JJ in particular.

brianp-beme 03-23-2016 12:21 AM

Does that mean it originally came from a lake?
 
Since the T206 Wagner is such a small card I would probably just end up throwing it back into the lake.

But seriously, I would almost instantly start shopping it around to auction houses.

iowadoc77 03-23-2016 06:29 AM

Hype
 
I would get with Joe O and hype the heck out of it on all forms of social media for awhile and then put it on eBay for $19.5 million BIN
I would certainly include the story in my description about finding it in grandpas attic because that is so popular. Then someone would offer me 20.5 mill and I would let it go regretfully. I would then buy an Aston Martin Vanquish and an island.

ullmandds 03-23-2016 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by iowadoc77 (Post 1518192)
I would get with Joe O and hype the heck out of it on all forms of social media for awhile and then put it on eBay for $19.5 million BIN
I would certainly include the story in my description about finding it in grandpas attic because that is so popular. Then someone would offer me 20.5 mill and I would let it go regretfully. I would then buy an Aston Martin Vanquish and an island.

nice plan...ill come visit with my e121 babe ruth...but you'd better buy a big island...or a smaller engined car!!!!!

Joshwesley 03-23-2016 07:01 AM

Hold for 1 year.... Take lots of pictures with.... Have parties at my house with it on exhibit..

After year 1 get with Robert Edwards and auction off for 13.1mm (net to me after fees)

Immediately pay off house, purchase 3 cards:
48 leaf satch
14-15 CJ Joe Jackson
A decent t206 plank

Retire.... Build 2 tennis courts in my backyard... Chill/play tennis for the next 40 years....
Have money market accounts with 5-7mm for my daughter and any future children that we might have.

darwinbulldog 03-23-2016 07:02 AM

I'd sell it, pay off my debts, set up a nice college fund for the kids, and buy some more interesting cards -- starting with that Buck Ewing N167 in the REA preview.

iowadoc77 03-23-2016 11:27 AM

Cold
 
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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1518195)
nice plan...ill come visit with my e121 babe ruth...but you'd better buy a big island...or a smaller engined car!!!!!

That's Cold Pete. I may get a E121 Ruth with some of the coin. You are welcome in the island. Everyone is welcome except for the rabid anti-dentites
I was thinking something Carribean.


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