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Old 02-15-2015, 02:47 PM
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Default Values on the rise for pre-war?

What specific vintage cards are increasing in value?

For post-war, I feel like I've seen the 1951 bowman Mantle and 1955 topps Clemente pop within a year. The Mantle more recently, the Clemente for awhile now. For pre-war, I'm having a harder time identifying what is trending due to lower volume of sales. Certainly 1914 CJs are going up, up, up, but what else? Or is the market flat?
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Old 02-15-2015, 03:11 PM
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Referring to the set that I collect (T206) the high end stuff always seems to go up. The popular players (Cobb, etc.), rare backs, and other set rarities remain in demand. The market for lesser players and common backs seems rather flat to me.
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I feel the 14 CJ's have quieted down since they spiked about 6 months ago. Still have some strong prices on the less common n bigger name cards. But overall they have def cooled off from what they were doing. I know mantle and ruth stuff continues to be hot. When are they not haha. Besides that I feel stuff is at a lull right now. Nothing really going from what I can see.
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In a lull it is. Even the 1933 Goudey Ruths seem to be somewhat flat. Some hit the market in the PWCC auction and went a little above, a little below and right on value.

Good point on the CJs flattening out about 6 months ago. Guess it was all the documentation on the 100th anniversary that riled folks up. I know it had me looking at my 1915s and wondering if I should trade some out for a cool factor 1914 (but didn't want to buy high).

As tough as pre-war can be to track, the 19th century stuff is just about impossible (for me). There are so few that they constantly look up and down at the same time due to a couple sales here n there.

Looking forward to seeing more action in the market once baseball season gears up. I know the pre-war stuff is year-round market for the die hards, but general baseball hype does seem to have an effect anyhow.
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Good point on the CJs flattening out about 6 months ago. Guess it was all the documentation on the 100th anniversary that riled folks up. I know it had me looking at my 1915s and wondering if I should trade some out for a cool factor 1914 (but didn't want to buy high).
Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...
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Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...
We have an optimist in our midst !
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All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol

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All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol
what is the most any graded 1987 topps card has sold for in the past 5 years?
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Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...
You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.
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Maybe high-graded CJ 15s will bd this year's CJ 14s--the prices on some PSA 8s have really soared lately.

Disappointed that prices on M116s and Ramlys continue to collapse, despite being "cool" cards...

Old Judges seem to keep falling....
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You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.
+1 on the tougher T206 commons. Another one that seems to be tough lately is Bull Durham...
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You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.
Since I posted this a week ago, the high-priced Puttman sold within a day. It was a raw copy, sold for $100. A PSA2 was listed with an $88 BIN and sold right away and another ungraded copy sold for $100 in an auction style listing.

Soooo, yeah...that didn't take long
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Let's be honest here, this is a time to be buying while things are quiet and slow. Maybe make a few decent pick ups to move later on. Only wish I knew what this years 14 CJ's going to be haha.
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