Show and tell of your Claude Rossman cards

[tedzan]

Claude Rossman played 1st base for Cleveland, Detroit, and very briefly for St Louis (AL). He had a great 1907 World Series for Detroit batting .474 (in a losing cause........
Detrot 0 vs. the Cubs 4).

Check this out....Hughie Jennings reportedly was one of the first managers to fine players. Rossman was one of the first to be fined $50 by Jennings for hitting a home run
when he was called on to bunt (ref. SABR).

Rossman's Major League career ended Sept 3, 1909. This fact is most likely the reason as to why Rossman was printed with only five T206 backs (includes SC 350 fac. 30).
Rossman does not exist with AMERICAN BEAUTY 350, BROAD LEAF 350, CAROLINA BRIGHTS, CYCLE 350, DRUM, El PRINCIPE de GALES, OLD MILL, POLAR BEAR or TOLSTOI.

Are there any more Candy, Tobacco (or other products) featuring cards of Rossman......let's see some ?








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TED Z

[White Borders]

Originally Posted by tedzan

... Rossman was printed with only five T206 backs (includes SC 350 fac. 30) ...

TED Z

Hi Ted,

Shouldn't it be "Rossman was printed with only FOUR T206 backs a T213-1 back"?

Btw, nice Type 1 Coupon

Best Regards,
Craig

[tedzan]

Craig

I consider the 1910 COUPON cards as another T-brand of the T206 family.

The identical T206 fronts (with BROWN captions)....the stylistic design of their backs that is identical to the AMERICAN BEAUTY,
BROAD LEAF, CYCLE and DRUM backs......and, their (circa Spring/Summer) 1910 issue date indicates to me that these cards are
indeed T206's.

Other collectors may differ, and that's their prerogative.


Best regards,

TED Z

[tjb1952tjb]

My only Claude Rossman................

[bbcard1]

No card scans to offer (of course, I have a T206 Piedmont at home) but Rossman is an interesting player. A good hitter who protected Crawford and Cobb during the Tigers' run from 1907 to 1909, he suffered from the yips, ala Steve Blass, Steve Sax and a young Dale Murphy, though his particular brand would cause him to freeze with the ball, which probably led to the end of his career. He died in an insane asylum in the 1940s. Stories like his are the reason I really enjoy collecting the monster. These days, our heroes are a little too antiseptic for me....

[jcmtiger]

Part of my T206 Detroit set.

Joe

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Craig

I consider the 1910 COUPON cards as another T-brand of the T206 family.

The identical T206 fronts (with BROWN captions)....the stylistic design of their backs that is identical to the AMERICAN BEAUTY,
BROAD LEAF, CYCLE and DRUM backs......and, their (circa Spring/Summer) 1910 issue date indicates to me that these cards are
indeed T206's.

Other collectors may differ, and that's their prerogative.


Best regards,

TED Z

Ted,

For what it’s worth, I consider your assertion that 1910 Coupon cards are part of the T206 set to be a valid starting point for a meaningful discussion. While I have very little experience with the Monster, the image of several backs that you posted stands on its own merit, in my humble (and admittedly inexperienced) opinion.

Best Regards,

Eric

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Ted,

For what it’s worth, I consider your assertion that 1910 Coupon cards are part of the T206 set to be a valid starting point for a meaningful discussion. While I have very little experience with the Monster, the image of several backs that you posted stands on its own merit, in my humble (and admittedly inexperienced) opinion.

Best Regards,

Eric

I really appreciate your opinion regarding the 1910 COUPON cards.

Many on this forum disagree with my premise....as we have had several discussions on this subject.

Thanks and best regards,

TED Z

[t206hound]

I like these two... keepers fo' sho'

[peterb69]

Interesting that these 2 both were cut long, stealing the name of the player above them. Wonder if these came from same sheet, same row.

[tedzan]

Hey guys,

Some nice looking Rossman cards.

And, those double-name cards are really cool.


TED Z

[tedzan]

This is the only other card of Rossman that I know of.

If some one here has this card, please post it.

And then, there are probably some esoteric sets that portray Rossman. If so, let's see them.


John

Cool blank back....and an interesting off-register collar effect on this Rossman.


Thanks,

TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Thanks Ted, I often wonder if the pencil notes are period and have something to do with the printing process.....I guess we will never know but fun to think about.

Nice cards yourself.

Cheers,

John

[wonkaticket]

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

John, that is super-cool.

[sb1]

here you go, highest graded by PSA to boot.

[sb1]

One more, not listed in the alphabetical checklist.

[RCMcKenzie]

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by sb1

One more, not listed in the alphabetical checklist.

A really beautiful W600 Rossman....thanks for posting it.

However, I'm not sure I understand...."not listed".

My catalog has both Rossman W600 cards listed....Cleveland (1906) and Detroit (1907).

Best regards,

Ted Z

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by sb1

here you go, highest graded by PSA to boot.

Thanks for posting your Briggs Rossman. Your E97 identifies him with Detroit. But, his E96 has him with Cleveland. Both of these Candy sets were issued circa 1909-10.
This is very strange, since Rossman was traded from Cleveland to Detroit in December 1906.





TED Z.

[Tim Zwick]

Nice Claude

[Seiklis]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Thanks for posting your Briggs Rossman. Your E97 identifies him with Detroit. But, his E96 has him with Cleveland. Both of these Candy sets were issued circa 1909-10.
This is very strange, since Rossman was traded from Cleveland to Detroit in December 1906.





TED Z.

Yea I've seen some weird things from the candy issues. (Bob Wood's e103 is another odd one) I'm sorta glad this one worked in my favor since I can use the E96 of Rossman for his Cleveland card rather than a W600.

[jerrys]

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