For Sale Artifically Aged Reprints $5.00 Makes Great Gifts See Pics

[rarerookies]

Hey guys. My name is Derek. I am new on here but not to the collecting side as I have been a sports card collector for over 20 years. I am just now finding time to be able to check out these forums and what all they have to offer.

I have some artificially aged cards for sale for $5.00 bucks each shipped

Payment by Paypal, Money Orders or check..

If you have any questions or wish to purchase, please email me at
goudeyruths@gmail.com or Private Message me.

Check out my photobucket items
http://s1205.photobucket.com/albums/...ed%20Reprints/

[Kawika]

This is a joke, right?

[Chris-Counts]

I don't think this is a joke. He's been trying to sell them for a week in another section of the BST. Some board members cringed (like myself) while others defended his right to sell his junk here ...

[vintagecpa]

Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.

[rarerookies]

Yes I am sure people take advantage of unsuspecting buyers of cards. I totally agree with that. I can go to bed each night knowing that I have disclosed that these cards were reprints. Once its outta my hands its outta my hands. With some cold medicine, brake fluid and a few other ingredients you can make meth. Why don't you start a campaign to ban brake fluid and cold medicine? Products can used for good things or bad. Gun's for defending homes or for murderers, cold medicine for people with allergies or making meth and reprints for people who appreciate trading cards and one's that are used to rip people off.

Its a two sided coin.

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.

[Batter67up]

If the cards don't say reprint on them then there is a good chance they will be sold as originals by a fraudulent person. Sell reprints with them stamped as reprint or get them out of our hobby!

[rarerookies]

This is where you get the "education and not buying from reputable sellers" lightbulb

Originally Posted by vintagecpa

Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.

[rarerookies]

Have you ever bought a pair of knockoff sunglasses or a Fucci purse for your wife?

Originally Posted by Kawika

This is a joke, right?

[Matthew H]

Above all this is the wrong place to advertise your cards; no one will buy them here.

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

Have you ever bought a pair of knockoff sunglasses or a Fucci purse for your wife?

No. I don't bother buying crap.

[rarerookies]

I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?

Originally Posted by Kawika

No. I don't bother buying crap.

[BlueDevil89]

Activity such as this is a scourge to the hobby. I vote for a lifetime ban from the forum for engaging in such an unethical and deceptive practice.

All those in favor...

[jb217676]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?

During the "aging" process the copyright line has gone missing on the back of the Wagner. If you did that you should be ashamed of yourself. These cards will eventually trickle down into the hands of somebody who thinks they are real. If you have any self respect you should burn these cards and issue an apology to these long time collectors on this forum for even showing these. One of the biggest problems in this hobby is making sure the card you buy is authentic and unaltered and these cards are a slap in the face to all of the collectors here and abroad. You sacrificed your integrity for the 1 or 2 dollars you were hoping to get for each of these cards. Stuff like this won't fly here, and I can't believe you had the guts to try and sell these here. This isn't Craigslist or Ebay, this is Net54 and you're not welcome if you try to use this site to get your fake cards out into the world. Happy Thanksgiving!
Jeff

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?

I consider your stuff crap. This garbage is a dime a dozen on eBay and Craigslist. Here, it is considered a joke. It doesn't take artistic talent to erase "reprint", dip a card and bake it. It just takes an unethical a**hole.

I agree, ban.

[buymycards]

These aren't 20's to 40's cards. If you are going to sell this crap at least put it in the correct area of the BST.

[margoaepi]

Besides the fact that this is disgusting . . . who would want an "artificially aged" Jordan?

[Ladder7]

Please, surf elsewhere.

[rarerookies]

What's the angst? Why the sore feelings towards these cards?

I personally like these cards. And have no problem offering them for sale to people who want them. Yeah authentic is always better but like a lot of things no one can afford authentic. Rolex's, Purses, Sunglasses, generic drugs, whatever the cheap alternative to the real thing. There's always the people who can drive BMW's and those who buy Camry's.

Even though they bear no real value of any sort there is some pleasure in collecting cards that are the greatest sports cards ever. No I will never own a real Mantle 52 rookie but I own a reprint and I look at it and think what it must be like to own such a card. I look at these and appreciate the birth of modern trading cards.

derek

[rarerookies]

wondering why you think that way

Originally Posted by margoaepi

Besides the fact that this is disgusting . . . who would want an "artificially aged" Jordan?

[doug.goodman]

I am not in favor of banning him, I am in favor of not responding to his posts, so that they drop quickly off the front page, and we don't have to be bothered by him.

And, I hope nobody responds to this post so that it will drop quickly off the front page, as well.

I'm confident that 100% of the real collectors who read these forums have the exact same initial thoughts on this guy and his "products". Arguing with him does nothing except keep him in the headlines.

Best regards,
Doug

[Griffins]

I'm in favor of banning listings for reprints.
I'm betting that will have the added benefit of effectively banning the OP.

[sbfinley]

And Leon thought this would be a calm Thanksgiving.

[Kawika]

Rarerookies: I don't have any problem with reprints in the hobby - they have their place. Charles Mandel produces a line of Helmar Brewing cards that have an "artificially aged" look which I rather like - I have even picked up a few. However, his cards are modern creations - they are not reprints which can be mistaken for a vintage issue. You paid enough rope to hang yourself by showing the Wagner back. How convenient that the copyright data didn't survive the aging process! "Once its outta my hands its outta my hands." 'Nuf ced about your ethics.
The Nazi book burning photo was a nice touch. I get it. We're fascist totalitarians because we object to your abetting fraudsters with your doctored reprints. (As a Jew maybe I should feel offended but I'm only saddened by your less-than-brilliant intellect). Actually we are merely collectors who try to enjoy a hobby despite the fact that it is ridden with every sort of scumbaggery already. You are part of the problem, dude. I don't think anyone is serious about banning you - the few guys who have been banned so far were majorly egregious douches and you are just a putz - but I do feel that you are not going to fit in with a lot of folks here.

[rarerookies]

I actually enjoyed this conversation. Its moved on from me trying to sell reprints to an ethical and moral debate. I didn't know that there was such an anti-reprint establishment among serious collectors. I thought of these more as novelty products. Replica rolex's, coach purses etc.

I enjoyed the conversation with you guys and will respect the wishes and not post anymore reprints for sale on this site.

I still believe an educated buyer wouldn't fall for a reprint but an uneducated buyer might. But these are the same people who respond to Nigerian Chain letters, buy lottery tickets and believe every too good to be true thing that pops up in there lives.

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I am not in favor of banning him, I am in favor of not responding to his posts, so that they drop quickly off the front page, and we don't have to be bothered by him.

And, I hope nobody responds to this post so that it will drop quickly off the front page, as well.

I'm confident that 100% of the real collectors who read these forums have the exact same initial thoughts on this guy and his "products". Arguing with him does nothing except keep him in the headlines.

Best regards,
Doug

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

I didn't know that there was such an anti-reprint establishment among serious collectors.

Always do your homework.

[buymycards]

I think one of the reasons that many of us don't like these reprints is that we were burned by them when we first started collecting. It might not have been a lot of money but it still stings. Think about wives wanting to buy their husbands a Xmas gift, or parents buying a gift for their children. They probably won't do the necessary research and they may end up buying some of this stuff. Add in kids buying for their own collections, and other collectors who are just getting into cards and the potential for problems increases.

It is the people on ebay who list these as real cards and put them in an auction format that seem to cause the most problems. At least you are selling them as reprints, but they should also be clearly marked as reprints. Maybe buy yourself a red rubber "reprint" stamp and stamp the cards.

Rick

[rarerookies]

I've been burned too. Both on a Rolex and some Mantle cards. Well the Rolex was actually my dumb fault. You see I wire transferred the money out of country (this was like 15 years ago) and never heard from or received the watch.

The '56 mantle was my fault. I was an uneducated buyer and got took for $400 bucks. Does it piss me off and make me wanna go burn the SOB's house down. Well maybe. Do I want to start an all out witch hunt and ban everyone selling reprints because of a select few illegitimate people. No

Its like the parents of kids who want to ban guns because the parent left a loaded gun in the house and didn't explain the totality of a bullet through the body. Its not the gun who killed the person its the person that pulled the trigger.

Just like its not the card that took money from you, it was the person you bought it from

Originally Posted by buymycards

I think one of the reasons that many of us don't like these reprints is that we were burned by them when we first started collecting. It might not have been a lot of money but it still stings. Think about wives wanting to buy their husbands a Xmas gift, or parents buying a gift for their children. They probably won't do the necessary research and they may end up buying some of this stuff. Add in kids buying for their own collections, and other collectors who are just getting into cards and the potential for problems increases.

It is the people on ebay who list these as real cards and put them in an auction format that seem to cause the most problems. At least you are selling them as reprints, but they should also be clearly marked as reprints. Maybe buy yourself a red rubber "reprint" stamp and stamp the cards.

Rick

[MikeGarcia]

When the Oakies left Oklahoma and moved to California, it raised the average I.Q. of both states.
Will Rogers

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

When the Oakies left Oklahoma and moved to California, it raised the average I.Q. of both states.
Will Rogers

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