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Old 11-23-2010, 05:52 PM
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This is a joke, right?
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:11 PM
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I don't think this is a joke. He's been trying to sell them for a week in another section of the BST. Some board members cringed (like myself) while others defended his right to sell his junk here ...
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:47 PM
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Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:29 PM
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Yes I am sure people take advantage of unsuspecting buyers of cards. I totally agree with that. I can go to bed each night knowing that I have disclosed that these cards were reprints. Once its outta my hands its outta my hands. With some cold medicine, brake fluid and a few other ingredients you can make meth. Why don't you start a campaign to ban brake fluid and cold medicine? Products can used for good things or bad. Gun's for defending homes or for murderers, cold medicine for people with allergies or making meth and reprints for people who appreciate trading cards and one's that are used to rip people off.

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Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:58 PM
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If the cards don't say reprint on them then there is a good chance they will be sold as originals by a fraudulent person. Sell reprints with them stamped as reprint or get them out of our hobby!
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:02 AM
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Default So no reasonable response to my argument?

Just if they are reprints they should be stamped as reprints.

Not anything like never buy anything you are not familiar with? Stay away from Grandpa's Attic sellers?

Not to say that the cards weren't made to deceive a person but an educated person in the hobby would be able to quickly identify the real from the fake. Just like buying Rolex's, if you don't know what to look for you'll get burned on the purchase.

I don't spend "real" money on something that I am uneducated on. Whether its mutual funds, cars, watches, pens, or baseball cards. If I can't explain basic ins and outs of the product I am purchasing including if there are copies floating around then I don't need to make the purchase.

I've got burned buying a fraudulent card. $800 bucks. From a guy who got it from his dad and posted it on Craigslist because he needed the money real bad.

Do you know what? I have never been burned again on cards.

Yeah it sucks that people have to ruin the hobby buy screwing people over. There's a special place you know where for them.

I guess the best way to say it. You know how you can go into an art store and buy a reprint of the mona lisa. You hang it up on the wall and appreciate the creativity and the shear shock and aww of it. Same thing with a 1933 goudey ruth reprint
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Old 11-25-2010, 01:05 AM
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This is where you get the "education and not buying from reputable sellers" lightbulb


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Actually there is plenty of money to be made buying these cards. Simply buy a few of these cards and list them on eBay. Use some of the following phrases: 1. Grampa's attic, 2. Selling as reprint, but looks real to me; 3. Doesn't say reprint anywhere on card; 4. I'm not a professional grader; 5. I don't have time to send to a professional grader. From what I see, people generally bid far more than $5 on these type of listings.
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Have you ever bought a pair of knockoff sunglasses or a Fucci purse for your wife?

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Old 11-25-2010, 01:48 AM
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Above all this is the wrong place to advertise your cards; no one will buy them here.

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Old 11-25-2010, 02:12 AM
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Have you ever bought a pair of knockoff sunglasses or a Fucci purse for your wife?
No. I don't bother buying crap.
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Old 11-25-2010, 02:58 AM
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I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?






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Old 11-25-2010, 06:18 AM
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Activity such as this is a scourge to the hobby. I vote for a lifetime ban from the forum for engaging in such an unethical and deceptive practice.

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Old 11-25-2010, 06:29 AM
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My main fear is that these cards will end up in the hands of someone that will try and deceive and eventually rip off a buyer. Of course you have a right to sell these cards, however you are contributing to one of the big problems in this hobby. On this board your actions won't be received very well.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:30 AM
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This is flat out wrong. I am all for the banishment!
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:49 AM
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I think Nazi's and the Communist's did similar things to beliefs that they didn't like too. Screw the Bill of Rights. Just a piece of paper when people disagree. If you disagree with this please tell me you disagree with all the pirated music, bootlegged movies, knock off purses and Folex watches.
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I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?



During the "aging" process the copyright line has gone missing on the back of the Wagner. If you did that you should be ashamed of yourself. These cards will eventually trickle down into the hands of somebody who thinks they are real. If you have any self respect you should burn these cards and issue an apology to these long time collectors on this forum for even showing these. One of the biggest problems in this hobby is making sure the card you buy is authentic and unaltered and these cards are a slap in the face to all of the collectors here and abroad. You sacrificed your integrity for the 1 or 2 dollars you were hoping to get for each of these cards. Stuff like this won't fly here, and I can't believe you had the guts to try and sell these here. This isn't Craigslist or Ebay, this is Net54 and you're not welcome if you try to use this site to get your fake cards out into the world. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:32 AM
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Using the words meth and nazi's to justify your business? Unbelievable. The mere fact that whole reprint is evenly aged except for the copyright which is completely removed speaks volumes towards your target audience and your business ethics. You should be ashamed of yourself and should feel guilty for the role you have played in all the dishonest transactions these cards have been involved in on Ebay since you started your business, even if you weren't directly involved.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:38 AM
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And I'm all for banning this guy, although I doubt that will stop him from trying to make a buck at other people's expenses.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:22 PM
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These cards have been around long before I got into the hobby of selling reprints and they will be around long after I am gone. I bought these cards from people selling them on Ebay.

I still say its more of an uneducated buyer issue than a moral argument. If you are going to invest in something you better know about it before you invest. If not then these cards could possibly be used in fraudulent activity.

Education of buyers not demise of capitalism


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Using the words meth and nazi's to justify your business? Unbelievable. The mere fact that whole reprint is evenly aged except for the copyright which is completely removed speaks volumes towards your target audience and your business ethics. You should be ashamed of yourself and should feel guilty for the role you have played in all the dishonest transactions these cards have been involved in on Ebay since you started your business, even if you weren't directly involved.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:08 PM
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If I understand your screen name to represent what you do for a living I assume you are a CPA. Your profession over the last 10 years have been plagued by immoral acts that did far worse to the nation than a few reprint baseball cards. Hmm... ENRON!!

CPA's do tax write-offs here, have "business lunches" and list attic space as a home office.

It's hard to believe someone who's associates basically dove us into a recession by inflating companies net worth's, cooking books and destroying trust in financial institutions would have such a problem with a few reprints.

Hows your quarterly's looking?



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Old 11-25-2010, 10:46 AM
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I don't consider my stuff crap. How many people do you know that can make a card got from new to old in 3 days?
I consider your stuff crap. This garbage is a dime a dozen on eBay and Craigslist. Here, it is considered a joke. It doesn't take artistic talent to erase "reprint", dip a card and bake it. It just takes an unethical a**hole.

I agree, ban.
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Old 11-25-2010, 10:56 AM
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Politics, religion and fakes ... has there ever been a better case for banning someone?
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