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Old 04-23-2021, 07:39 AM
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Any chance this is good. I'm way out of my scope here.
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No chance IMO.
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No chance IMO.
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Letter formation, baseline alignment, crossing of "t". It is off.
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No chance IMO.
Why do I always think of this scene from Dumb and Dumber.
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Why do I always think of this scene from Dumb and Dumber.

Does this mean you think the card and autograph are bad?
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Is it me or does this card look like it was taken to a nail salon? Those corners are so perfectly rounded you would think it was issued that way.
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This was moved from another section so a few more eyes can see it.

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Is it me or does this card look like it was taken to a nail salon? Those corners are so perfectly rounded you would think it was issued that way.
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If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.
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If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.
That was my initial impression, also.
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I’d have to see this in person but I wouldn’t rule this out whatsoever. I would start by finding out if the card is authentic and go from there. You cannot rule this autograph out at all. It’s really really really close and to my trained eye it just looks like it was squeezed to fit in the space.
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I am not an auto expert at all, but while it's a good reprint...it's not good enough. The paper type seems off and the border coloring is no good in comparison to the exposed worn paper. It's a no from over here, take it for the 2 cents it's worth.
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For a mere 25k

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If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.
I keep coming back to Adam's point. What collector or auctioneer would sell a $50K+ item for a few thousand dollars when authenticating it would give credence to its genuineness and exponentially increase its selling price?
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From what I was told... The Owner didn't want to gamble to price of grading & authentication...

I know, I know - THAT SMELLS REAL BAD!!
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I don't think the autograph is good. Even IF the card were authentic, it could never be holdered unless the signature was authentic as well.

Card would still have value if it were authentic with a bad signature, but it couldn't be holdered unless both were good.
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I do not see anything about the card or sig that would preclude either from being authentic. Whatever happened to “Buy the Card - not the Holder” (or lack thereof).

Maybe the consignor isn’t a collector, and didn’t have the ability to wait a year for the 3rd party “blessing”. He may need his money sooner, and/or couldn’t fathom the obscene premiums people pay for slabs? It’s a shame we’ve reached the point of condemning the card simply for not being slabbed.
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From what I was told... The Owner didn't want to gamble to price of grading & authentication...

I know, I know - THAT SMELLS REAL BAD!!
If this auctioneer honestly did not insist on submission and pay the fee himself that is a big red flag.
Its literally his job to maximize the price that these items go for.

He could have paid $300 or $600 fee at a lower level if he was not confident and happily paid the upcharge if it did come back legit.

And no it does not take a year to get a card like this graded or authenticated, it takes about 1-14 days depending on the level you pay for.
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Looks like the auto did not pass unfortunately for the buyer.

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That signed Ruth Goudey looks bad from a mile away.

The signature lacks all the confidence that authentic Ruth signatures possess. Flow, size, angle, placement. It’s a slowly executed and timid attempt. Compare it to authentic Ruth autographs, which have such speed and confidence.

He was very proud of his autograph, rightfully so. And it shows on authentic examples.
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