What are the chances?

[Exhibitman]

If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.

[GaryPassamonte]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.

That was my initial impression, also.

[Bpm0014]

I’d have to see this in person but I wouldn’t rule this out whatsoever. I would start by finding out if the card is authentic and go from there. You cannot rule this autograph out at all. It’s really really really close and to my trained eye it just looks like it was squeezed to fit in the space.

[JustinD]

I am not an auto expert at all, but while it's a good reprint...it's not good enough. The paper type seems off and the border coloring is no good in comparison to the exposed worn paper. It's a no from over here, take it for the 2 cents it's worth.

[Leon]

For a mere 25k

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17474705557...UAAOSwyDpghCo0


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[GaryPassamonte]

I guess that does it, Leon. The card I posted is in a small local auction.
The one you posted is obviously the same card. I guess is first come first
served.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte

I guess that does it, Leon. The card I posted is in a small local auction.
The one you posted is obviously the same card. I guess is first come first
served.

Consider yourself lucky you saved 25k.

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Seller sells everything from watches to guitars. No knowledge base on cards from what I can see on past listings so they could easily be fooled by a good reproduction. Not sure this one is a good one. The corners are rounded perfectly and even though it has very rounded corners and a nick at the bottom it is very clean otherwise which doesn't add up to me.

[GaryPassamonte]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If there was any chance of it being real it would be slabbed. Too much money to leave on the table.

I keep coming back to Adam's point. What collector or auctioneer would sell a $50K+ item for a few thousand dollars when authenticating it would give credence to its genuineness and exponentially increase its selling price?

[Eggoman]

From what I was told... The Owner didn't want to gamble to price of grading & authentication...

I know, I know - THAT SMELLS REAL BAD!!

[packs]

I don't think the autograph is good. Even IF the card were authentic, it could never be holdered unless the signature was authentic as well.

Card would still have value if it were authentic with a bad signature, but it couldn't be holdered unless both were good.

[perezfan]

I do not see anything about the card or sig that would preclude either from being authentic. Whatever happened to “Buy the Card - not the Holder” (or lack thereof).

Maybe the consignor isn’t a collector, and didn’t have the ability to wait a year for the 3rd party “blessing”. He may need his money sooner, and/or couldn’t fathom the obscene premiums people pay for slabs? It’s a shame we’ve reached the point of condemning the card simply for not being slabbed.

[bmattioli]

Trying to legit a card like this especially with the auto through pictures online is tough, got to be held in hand..

[Bpm0014]

I saw NOTHING that led me to believe that it is NOT a GENUINE '33 Goudey...

Stock is right, felt right, smelled right, printing looked correct, etc. - it passes MY "Stink Test"!

I stand behind my assessment above that the autograph is very very close and could certainly be authentic. I’d need to see it in hand however. I know Ruth extremely well and have studied it extensively. This simply looks like he condensed his signature to fit it in the space. This is more than likely authentic.

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by Eggoman

From what I was told... The Owner didn't want to gamble to price of grading & authentication...

I know, I know - THAT SMELLS REAL BAD!!

If this auctioneer honestly did not insist on submission and pay the fee himself that is a big red flag.
Its literally his job to maximize the price that these items go for.

He could have paid $300 or $600 fee at a lower level if he was not confident and happily paid the upcharge if it did come back legit.

And no it does not take a year to get a card like this graded or authenticated, it takes about 1-14 days depending on the level you pay for.

[ruth-gehrig]

Sold $6500 plus fees