Huggins and Scott

[theshleps]

What did you guys think of the prices for signed vintage cards in the Huggins and Scott auction. Prices to me seemed higher than ever especially on the 1941 Playball. I kept getting outbid and wouldn't meet what I considered the outrageous prices. Only bargain was a 1961 Fleer Cochrane but most likely because it was SGC

[Republicaninmass]

Absolutely incredible prices. I think the 33 Goudey ott portrait fell a little shy having a JSA and being in pencil. Otherwise probably another 25% boost.

Some of the curmudgeons here on the board will balk at the price of the Greenburg, but he isnt getting any cheaper!

[theshleps]

I thought the Greenberg was quite high. I needed an upgrade but not at that price. 39 Play ball Greenbergs have gone for much less but I guess the 1941s are rarer

[Republicaninmass]

He isnt signing any more of them! Signed cards and HOF cards have been steadily increasing. Even the 39s have been heading higher.

Look at signed 52 mays, they were around 2k, now 8k and hes alive, and barely come for sale.

[slidekellyslide]

So I guess the signed T206 fiasco has scared away no one?

[parker1b2]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

So I guess the signed T206 fiasco has scared away no one?

I was thinking the same thing. I remember as a kid when I started collecting cards and autographs, and going to shows in late 80s & early 90s I was always told not to get autographs on cards cause it would decrease the cards value. Not sure how true that was back then, but a lot of people told me that so it really surprises me now how many higher end cards are now autographed.

[Republicaninmass]

I was told the same thing, and also to never get an expensive rookie card autographed! I'm glad some people didnt listen.

I've been lucky enough to pick up 2 large TTM collections from the 30s to the early 50s, with envelopes and dates, as well as notes on how long responses took, and who didnt send cards backs. Sadly, 2 who didnt respond in the 50s were Jackie R and Joe D! It would have made for quite the collection! However the random and obscure cards, as well as vintage ballpoint not rushed autos, are always a thing of beauty, even if the player is still signing today.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

So I guess the signed T206 fiasco has scared away no one?

Does not appear so thus far, and not sure the JSA held it back either...

Signed 1933 Goudey Ott #127

$3300 Fall 2018 REA (PSA/DNA)
https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...el-ott-psadna/

$5700 February 2019 Huggins and Scott (JSA LOA)
https://hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/...268&lotno=1232

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I'm glad some people didnt listen.

If folks like Jeff Morey had gotten autographed T cards of Lajoie, Cobb, etc., in the mid-1950s and early 1960s, it is not surprising to me that plenty of collectors got the rookies and stars of the 1950s and 60s on their gum cards. After going through hundreds of pages of hobby periodicals, I can tell you that plenty of people did!

From Sports Collectors Journal March 1968:

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Does not appear so thus far, and not sure the JSA held it back either...

Signed 1933 Goudey Ott #127

$3300 Fall 2018 REA (PSA/DNA)
https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...el-ott-psadna/

$5700 February 2019 Huggins and Scott (JSA LOA)
https://hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/...268&lotno=1232

Sheesh! I think that's his best pose and would have thought 10k!

[Jasonxmay]

Mine that sold in REA had severe back damage, which I think contributed to the lower price. The market for signed 33 Goudey commons is way down, but I think the market for HOF players has held steady for the most part. The $132k that my Ruth 181 sold for is probably an anomaly, but otherwise I would expect similar results if the auction were held today.

Jason

Originally Posted by T206Collector

Does not appear so thus far, and not sure the JSA held it back either...

Signed 1933 Goudey Ott #127

$3300 Fall 2018 REA (PSA/DNA)
https://www.robertedwardauctions.com...el-ott-psadna/

$5700 February 2019 Huggins and Scott (JSA LOA)
https://hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/...268&lotno=1232

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

If folks like Jeff Morey had gotten autographed T cards of Lajoie, Cobb, etc., in the mid-1950s and early 1960s, it is not surprising to me that plenty of collectors got the rookies and stars of the 1950s and 60s on their gum cards. After going through hundreds of pages of hobby periodicals, I can tell you that plenty of people did!

From Sports Collectors Journal March 1968:

I wonder if Doc Steen ever sent cards to be signed? From the cancelled envelopes we have of his we know he was doing TTM autos in the 30s and 40s.

[T206Collector]

I think Doc Steen was focused on larger pictures, but we are lucky that he included M101-2s in his pursuits!