FYI....T206 SOVEREIGN set confirmed lists

[tedzan]

Dated Oct 7, 2020

A complete SOVEREIGN set comprises of 402 different subjects. And, a master SOVEREIGN set consists of 476 cards.


150-only Series..............12 subjects confirmed.



Ames (hands at chest)
M. Brown (Cubs)
G. Browne (Chicago Nat'L)
Burch (batting)
Donlin (fielding)
L. Doyle (throwing)
Evers (Cubs-batting)
Pattee (horizontal)
Pelty (horizontal)
Powers
Reulbach (glove)
Schulte (with bat)


150/350 Series..................140 subjects confirmed

Abbaticchio (brown sleeves)
Alperman
Ames (portrait)
Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bell (hands over head)
Bender (portrait)
Bergen (bat)
Birmingham
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield
Bridwell (portrait-no cap)
Bresnahan (portrait)
M. Brown (portrait)
Camnitz (arms folded)
Chance (red portrait)
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)

Chesbro
Cicotte
Clarke (portrait)
Clarke (bat)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (green)
Cobb (bat on shoulder)
Conroy (fielding)
Coveleski
Crandall (no cap)
Crawford (throwing)............. only SOVEREIGN 350 back
Criger
Criss
Dahlen (Boston Nat'L)
George Davis (Chicago)
Harry Davis (A's)
Delehanty (Washington)
Devlin
Donlin (seated)
Donohue

Donovan (portrait)
Dooin
Doolin
Dougherty (portrait)
Durham
Elberfeld (New York Amer.)
Evers (portrait)
Ewing
Ferris
Flick
Ganley
Gibson
Gilbert
Goode
Griffith (portrait)
Hahn
Hemphill
Herzog (New York Nat'L)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Isbell

Jacklitsch
Jennings (portrait).............. only SOVEREIGN 350 back
Johnson (portrait)
F. Jones (portrait)
F. Jones (hands at hips)
T. Jones (St Louis Amer.)
Jordan (portrait)
Joss (portrait)
Karger
Keeler (portrait)
Keeler (bat)
Killian (pitching)
Kleinow (bat)
Kling
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (portrait)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York)
Leach (portrait)
Leifield (pitching)

Liebhardt
Lindaman
Lobert
Lumley
Magee (portrait)
Manning (bat)
Marquard (hands at side)
Mathewson (portrait)
Mathewson (white cap)
McGraw (portrait-no cap)
McGraw (pointing)
McIntyre (Brooklyn)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Merkle (portrait)
Mullin (horizontal)
Murphy (horizontal)
Nicholls (hands on knees)
Niles
Oldring (fielding)
O'Leary (portrait)

Overall (portrait)
Owen
Parent
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing)
Seymour (bat)
Shaw (St Louis Nat'L)
Sheckard (no glove)
Shipke
F. Smith (Chicago)
Spade
Spencer
Stahl (no glove
Steinfeldt (portrait)
Stone

Stovall (portrait)
Sullivan
L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tenney
Tinker (portrait)
Tinker (hands on knees)
Turner
Waddell (portrait)
Waddell (throwing)
Wagner (bat on left)
Wallace
Walsh
Weimer
Doc White (portrait)
Wilhelm (hands at chest)
Williams
Willis (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-no cap)
CYoung (portrait)
CYoung (bare hand)



SOVEREIGN 350-only Series.......... 138 confirmed subjects

Abbott
Anderson
Armbruster
Arndt
Atz
Barry (A's)
Barry (Milw)
Batch
Beck
Beckley
Bender (trees)
Bescher (portrait)
Blackburne
Brain
Browne (Washington)
Burke
Burns
Bush
Butler
Byrne

Campbell
Carr
Carrigan
Casey
Cassidy
Chappelle
Clancy
Collins (A's)
Congalton
Cravath
Cree
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Dineen
Donovan (throwing)
Doolan (fielding)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Baltimore)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Dygert

Easterly
Egan
Ferguson
Fiene (portrait)
Fiene (throwing)
Flanagan
Fromme
Gasper
Graham (Boston)
Grimshaw
Hall
Hallman
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hinchman (Toledo)
Hoblitzell
Hoffman (Providence)
Hofman
Howard (Chicago)
Howell (portrait)

Huggins (portrait)
Huggins (hands/mouth)
Hulswitt
Jackson
Kelley
Killian (portrait)
Kisinger
Knabe
Knight (portrait)
Knight (bat)
Krause (portrait)
Krause (pitching)
Kroh
Kruger
Lavender
Lennox
Livingstone
Malarkey
Marquard (portrait)
McCormick

McGann
McGinley
McGinnity
McGlynn
McIntyre (Detroit)
Merritt
Milligan
Mitchell (Cinci)
Mitchell (Toronto)
Moeller
Moran (Chicago)
Moran (Providence)
Moriarty
Mowrey
Myers (fielding)
Oakes
Oberlin
O'Brien
O'Hara (NY Nat'L)
O'Neill

Paskert
Perring
Pfeister (seated)
Phelan
Phelps
Pickering
Poland
Purtell
Quillen
Quinn
Randall
Raymond
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Rossman
Schmidt (portrait)
Scott
Shaw (Providence)
Slagle
Smith (Buffalo)
Speaker

Stanage
Stephens
Strang
Street (portrait)
Summers
Sweeney (Boston)
J. Tannehill (Washington)
Taylor
Thielmann
Thomas
Titus
Unglaub
Warhop
White (Buffalo)
Wilson
Wright
Irv Young
Zimmerman



"350/460 Series"...................... 66 subjects (apple green backs)

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle

Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (New York Amer.)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)

Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)

Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


460-only Series...................... 46 subjects confirmed

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Bell (follow thru)
Bergen (catching)
Bescher (hands over head)
Bridwell (portrait-cap)
Camnitz (hands over head)
Camnitz (arm at side)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Crandall (portrait-cap)
Devore
Duffy
Larry Doyle (portrait)
Ford
Frill
Gandil
Geyer
Herzog (Boston)
Howell (hand at waist)

Hummel
Lake, St. Louis (ball)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
McGraw (glove at hip)
Merkle (throwing)
Meyers (portrait)
Murray (portrait)
Needham
Oldring (batting)
Overall (blue sky)
Payne
Pfeffer
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (bat)
Schulte (back view)
Seymour (portrait)
Sheckard (glove)

Smith (Brooklyn)
Stovall (bat)
Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wheat
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

The Six Super-Prints were also printed with SOVEREIGN 460 backs.
This SOVEREIGN 460 red Cobb pictured here is very difficult to find.

Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Evers (Chicago-yellow sky)
Mathewson (dark cap)

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TED Z
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[FrankWakefield]

Nice. We all thank you.

[frohme]

Great stuff, Ted.

I believe you've previously published a bunch from the 150/350 Series to make up to 120 no-prints, yes? An oversight in your original post?

Thanks for the tireless work!
--
Mike

[tedzan]

I think you are referring to the list I generated several years back, when I had completed my Sovereign set, and
was considering doing a "master" set.

If I recall correctly, approx. 90 of the 151 subjects in the 150 series were also printed with "350 Subjects" backs.
Therefore, 60 (or so) cards are "350" No-Prints in the 150/350 series.

I will search for this list and post it in this thread.

Thanks very much for asking about these No-Prints.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Here goes as succinctly as I can, so stay with me. Why American Litho. printed a series of 66 cards in their SOVEREIGN issue with this "apple green" ink
is a mystery. What is not a mystery is why these 66 subjects were selected.

Now, 100 years later, this subtle change in green color reveals to us that American Litho. selected these 66 subjects from the 183 Major Leaguers in the
350 series to continue printing them with 460 series backs (possibly due to the popularity of these ballplayers). Furthermore, the fact that the Sovereign
backs on these cards are not identified as "350-460 Subjects" (as Piedmont and Sweet Caporal backs are) suggests to us that this was done in the initial
planning stage of their 350/460 series cards (circa Summer 1910).


Some of the HOFer's in this series..................................



..................apple green backs

..................normal green back


......350 Series common............................\/........................................Some more HOFer's in this series........................................\/




FURTHERMORE..........

Three of these cards (Joe Doyle, Simon Nicholls, and Bob Rhoades) were never printed with 460 backs since their Major League careers ended prior to the
460 series press runs. Red Kleinow (NY) and Frank Smith (Chicago) were not printed as 350/460 cards since they were in transition [both being traded to
Boston (AL) prior to 460 printing]. Supporting evidence of this theory is that these 5 subjects do not exist with the AB 350 (frame) back. Which of course,
if they did, would contradict this entire premise....since the AB 350 (frame) back is strictly found with 350-only cards.

Subsequently, these exact cards of Red Kleinow and Frank Smith were printed with a variety of 460 series backs with their captions reflecting their trades
to Boston . However, the "Boston" versions of Kleinow and Smith were not printed with SOVEREIGN 460 backs.



\/..............................................The intended 5 subjects for the 350/460 series that were not printed with 460 backs..........................................\/





List of apple green backs in the SOVEREIGN set........66 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Joe Doyle (arms over head)
Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Wash.-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (NY-catching)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
Nichols (bat)
O'Leary (hands/knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rhoades (arm extended)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago-white cap)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)

NOTE......These 66 cards are found ONLY with the apple-green colored backs. They were definitely not printed with the darker green backs.


I'm sure that some of you may have questions. Feel free to ask them, if I have not clearly explained this phenomena to you. Or, if you want to know
more details regarding these cards.


Credit goes to Art Martineau & Jim Rivera for first pointing out this color difference to this forum in 2009.
In 2007, I had completed an all-SOVEREIGN set. This enabled me (in 2009) to correlate the cards with the apple-green backs to the 350/460 series
subjects in the T206 set and arrive at this theory.



TED Z

[White Borders]

Ted,

With regard to the Sov 150 no-prints, I can understand why there's no Magie, Plank, or Wagner. And Lundgren's move from the Cubs to KC can account for that no-print. But what's going on with Jennings Portrait? I thought he was in the 150-350 group, but I notice that he's not been confirmed (at least in my notes) with any of the Sweet Cap 150 backs either. Is he another "exception"?

Thanks again and Best Regards,
Craig

[frohme]

I think this is your post I was referring to, Ted

Originally Posted by tedzan

I think you are referring to the list I generated several years back, when I had completed my Sovereign set, and
was considering doing a "master" set.

If I recall correctly, approx. 90 of the 151 subjects in the 150 series were also printed with "350 Subjects" backs.
Therefore, 60 (or so) cards are "350" No-Prints in the 150/350 series.

I will search for this list and post it in this thread.

Thanks very much for asking about these No-Prints.


TED Z

[tedzan]

As requested by several of you ........

The data here has been transferred to Post #15.....and, augmented with additional info.


TED Z

[sreader3]

Ted,

By way of clarification, Jennings (Portrait) is available with Sovereign 350, correct? In other words, Jennings (Portrait) is the lone SOVEREIGN 350-ONLY subject in the 150/350 subject group.

Scot

[cfc1909]

Steinfeldt is portrait also

[tedzan]

Jennings (portrait) is certainly available with a SOVEREIGN 350 back.

Now, is he is the lone "350-only" subject in the 150/350 series in this set.

Well, I'm not sure, as I've had a hard time finding Wiltse (portrait-no cap) with a SOVEREIGN 150 back.


Best regards,

TED Z

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Ted,

By way of clarification, Jennings (Portrait) is available with Sovereign 350, correct? In other words, Jennings (Portrait) is the lone SOVEREIGN 350-ONLY subject in the 150/350 subject group.

Scot

My reply to Scot a year ago......

" Now, is he is the lone 350-only subject in the 150/350 series in this set ? "

" Well, I'm not sure, as I've had a hard time finding Wiltse (portrait-no cap) with a SOVEREIGN 150 back. "


Scot

After 4 years of searching, I finally acquired Wiltse with a SOVEREIGN 150 back. Therefore, all 151 cards in the 1st series of my set have the SOVEREIGN 150 backs.

And, a big thanks to Rob A. (caramelcard)....who recently provided me this Wiltse card.








POSTSCRIPT ...... If you are willing to be a really patient dude regarding "The Monster" ...... the T206's you expect to find will eventually arrive.


TED Z

[tedzan]

This is the 3rd of 15 threads that will provide the most up to date lists of the confirmed cards with the various T206 backs.

OK folks....here is a major T206 sub-set consisting of 402 different cards that you can COMPLETE. It is quite affordable, and
all 402 cards are not too tough to find.

There are 122 subjects (from a full 524-card T206 set) that were not printed for the SOVEREIGN set. These NO-PRINTS are
identified in their respective series breakdown as follows.


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150 SERIES......consists of 150 cards with the "150 Subjects" back......the NO-PRINTS are:

Crawford (throwing) ...... Note: this Crawford is found with a SOVEREIGN 350 back only.
Jennings (portrait) ........ Note: this Jennings is found with a SOVEREIGN 350 back only.
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magie
Plank
Honus Wagner


350 SERIES......consists of 204 cards......the NO-PRINTS are:

Abstein
Adkins
Arrellanes
Barbeau
Barger
Becker
Bliss
Brashear
Bresnahan (bat)
Burchell
Charles
Clark
Clymer
Collins (Minn.)
Cross
Davidson
Delehanty (Louisville)
Demmitt (New York American)
Dessau
Dorner

Downey (fielding)
J. Doyle (N.Y. Nat'L)
Elberfeld (portrait-Washington)
Engle
Evans
Fletcher
Freeman
Ganzel
Graham (St Louis AL)
Gray
Groom
Hayden
Hoffman (St Louis AL)
Hunter
Jones (portrait Detroit)
La Porte
Lattimore
Lord
Lundgren (Kansas City)
Maddox

Maloney
Marshall
Mattern
McAleese
McBride
McElveen
McLean
Milan
Miller (Pittsburg)
Mullen (portrait)
Murray (bat)
Myers (bat)
Nattress
Phillippe
Puttman
Rhodes
Ritter
Rudolph
Schirm
Schlafly

Schreck
Shannon
Sharpe
Snodgrass (bat)
Starr
Willett


460 SERIES......consists of 46 cards......the NO-PRINTS are:

Kleinow (Boston)
Smith (Chicago & Boston)


The 48 Southern Leaguers are NO-PRINTS.

And, the St. Louis variations are NO-PRINTS......

Demmitt (St Louis American)
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)


Furthermore, the 6 super prints were also printed with the SOVEREIGN 460 back. A set that includes these cards is complete
with 408 cards. NOTE....these 6 super-prints with the SOVEREIGN 460 back are very difficult to find (relative to all the other
SOVEREIGN cards).


Shown here, are the color variations of certain cards with SOVEREIGN 350 backs. The next post here will explore this color
difference. And, identify the 66 cards that were printed with these "apple green" colored backs.
.....
..............apple green backs

...............normal green back



Two updates........

The 350 SERIES list has been updated to reflect my inadvertent omission of Downey (fielding) being a SOVEREIGN 350 series NO-PRINT.


The 150 SERIES list has been updated to reflect Art Martineau's input regarding the Crawford (throwing) being a NO-PRINT with a SOVEREIGN 150 back.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Unlike the PIEDMONT print runs of the subjects in the 150/350 Series which essentially all were printed with both 150
and 350 backs, the SOVEREIGN print runs omitted the 350 back on a fair number of subjects in the 150/350 Series.

It is more convenient here to list the "NO-PRINTS". To date, there is a total of 66 "NO-PRINTS".

This list of 12 cards in the 150/350 Series are definite SOVEREIGN 350 NO-PRINTS ..........

Lundgren (Cubs)

and,

the "Elite Eleven" ..........

Dahlen (Boston)
Ewing
Ganley
T. Jones (St Louis)
Karger
Lindaman
Mullin (horizontal)
Schaefer (Detroit)
Schulte (front view)
Shaw (St Louis)
Spencer


And, listed here are 58 (or 57) subjects in the 150/350 Series which appear to be SOVEREIGN 350 "NO-PRINTS"......

Ball (New York)
Bates
Beaumont
Bergen (bat)
Bowerman
Bradley (portrait)
Bransfield
Chance (red portrait) ................ ?
Chase (pink portrait)
Chase (white cap)
Chesbro
F. Clarke (portrait)
JJ Clarke
Cobb (green portrait)
Conroy (fielding)
Covaleski
Crandall (no cap)
George Davis (Chicago AL)
H. Davis
Delehanty (Washington)

Doolin
Durham
Evers (portrait)
Gibson
Gilbert
Hahn
Hemphill
Herzog (New York)
Hinchman (Cleveland)
Tim Jordan (portrait)
Keeler (portrait)
Killian (pitching)
Konetchy (glove high)
Lajoie (throwing)
Lake (New York)
Leach (portrait)
Lobert
Lumley
Magee (portrait)
Marquard (hands at thighs)

Mathewson (white cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn)
McQuillan (ball in hand)
Overall (portrait)
Owen
Pastorius
Powell
Ritchey
Rucker (portrait)
Schlei (catching)
Schmidt (throwing)
Spade
Steinfeldt (portrait)
L Tannehill (Chicago)
Tinker (portrait)
Wagner (bat/left shoulder)
Wilhelm (hands/chest)
Williams


Note
The red Chance is unknown....if anyone on this forum has this card with a SOVEREIGN 350 back, please chime in.

Also, any new inputs will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks.

TED Z
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