O/T - you think our prices are too high?

[raulus]

Kinda feel like this could be a sign that we've reached peak froth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/76477492007/

Of course, prophets of doom who keep predicting doom are bound to be right sooner or later. Something about predicting 27 of the last 5 recessions.

But for my money, $6M+ could buy a lot more exciting stuff than some banana (with duct tape), even if it has been anointed as fine art by the cognoscenti.

[BobbyStrawberry]

And the winner doesn't even get the banana—only permission to tape a different banana to the wall and say it's this particular artwork.

[BioCRN]

Originally Posted by raulus

Kinda feel like this could be a sign that we've reached peak froth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...n/76477492007/

Of course, prophets of doom who keep predicting doom are bound to be right sooner or later. Something about predicting 27 of the last 5 recessions.

But for my money, $6M+ could buy a lot more exciting stuff than some banana (with duct tape), even if it has been anointed as fine art by the cognoscenti.

I can assure you that upper middle class and rich not only stayed rich during the "pandemic era"...many got richer.

Williams Sonoma is having no problem with inventory, sales, or profit. Whatever money crunch much of the world is experiencing, it's not effecting their clientele.

The beginning of the pandemic shutdowns (early 2000) put a lot of stress on the investor class, but by late-summer/fall 2000 there was plenty of money to be made if you had excess investment income that wasn't trying to cover rent and groceries.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Some pretentious nitwit from Sotheby's

"...Passionately debated, rhapsodically venerated, and hotly contested..."

It's a banana...and some duct tape.

Six million dollars...lol.

[brianp-beme]

For that type of money I would expect a wax banana, because who wants to keep taping up fresh bananas?

Brian

[Beercan collector]

Look out for fakes

[G1911]

For a mere $620 I will send anyone interested:

1) a fresh banana

2) a 2 pack roll of unopened duct tape and

3) a certificate of authenticity

Don't miss out on this killer deal, saving you over $6,000,000 and giving more value! Offer good while supplies last.

[ASF123]

In the least surprising news of the day, the buyer is a blockchain founder who paid in crypto.

[D. Bergin]

These are who want to take over the monetary system in our country and others.

Enjoy guys.

[BioCRN]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

These are who want to take over the monetary system in our country and others.

Enjoy guys.

Absolutely no one aside from cryptobros want a world currency that is so volatile that you can order something for delivery months away (commodity markets, especially) that can drop or rise 20-30%+ on a whim and be considered absolute normal behavior for that currency.

As an aside that's related to the artwork. The banana and tape are not the actual artwork, the rights to post the banana + duct tape and proper instructions for how to do it is what's actually being sold. It's quite similar to the NFT market, though not the same.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

The banana and tape are not the actual artwork, the rights to post the banana + duct tape and proper instructions for how to do it is what's actually being sold. It's quite similar to the NFT market, though not the same.

In that case, it's a bargain!

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

Absolutely no one aside from cryptobros want a world currency that is so volatile that you can order something for delivery months away (commodity markets, especially) that can drop or rise 20-30%+ on a whim and be considered absolute normal behavior for that currency.

As an aside that's related to the artwork. The banana and tape are not the actual artwork, the rights to post the banana + duct tape and proper instructions for how to do it is what's actually being sold. It's quite similar to the NFT market, though not the same.

Cryptobros might be running the Fed pretty soon.......soooo...........there's that.

Also

That strikes me as just as ridiculous (if not more) as if it was just a banana and duct tape.

Wonder how much crypto stock Sotheby's got gifted for reporting this bullshit sale?

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by ASF123

In the least surprising news of the day, the buyer is a blockchain founder who paid in crypto.

Ding ding ding. He didn't pay $6.2M for banana art. He paid $6.2M for the kind of publicity you can only get by doing something as attention-grabbing as paying $6.2M for a banana.

Someone check the movement on his crypto holdings. I don't know how to track that stuff, but I'll bet he's the lesser fool in this scenario.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Ding ding ding. He didn't pay $6.2M for banana art. He paid $6.2M for the kind of publicity you can only get by doing something as attention-grabbing as paying $6.2M for a banana.

Someone check the movement on his crypto holdings. I don't know how to track that stuff, but I'll bet he's the lesser fool in this scenario.

He didn't pay $6.2 Million either. He paid $6.2 Million of his own ponzi scheme crypto stash.

[ALR-bishop]

If you can get a fresh green banana untreated by retail store gasses it will last for months and turn really slowly to yellow.

[theshowandme]

I’ll take $1 million

[brianp-beme]

I was considering how I could swing the million, but then noticed it is crunchy peanut butter. I prefer creamy.

Brian

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I was considering how I could swing the million, but then noticed it is crunchy peanut butter. I prefer creamy.

Brian

But keep in mind that you’re not buying that *specific* jar of peanut butter. You’re buying a license to tape your *own* jar of peanut butter to the wall, and a certificate of authenticity. You could make yours creamy if you want.

[BioCRN]

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[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by ASF123

But keep in mind that you’re not buying that *specific* jar of peanut butter. You’re buying a license to tape your *own* jar of peanut butter to the wall, and a certificate of authenticity. You could make yours creamy if you want.

Creamy is clearly the first telltale sign of a forgery.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by ASF123

But keep in mind that you’re not buying that *specific* jar of peanut butter. You’re buying a license to tape your *own* jar of peanut butter to the wall, and a certificate of authenticity. You could make yours creamy if you want.

Even if I were to supply my own creamy peanut butter, deep inside I would feel, as BillyCoxDodgers3B has stated, that I were creating a forgery. My million will wait until the artist creates a creamy version.

Brian

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Ding ding ding. He didn't pay $6.2M for banana art. He paid $6.2M for the kind of publicity you can only get by doing something as attention-grabbing as paying $6.2M for a banana.

I agree. He was buying the notoriety.

Originally Posted by gunboat82

Someone check the movement on his crypto holdings. I don't know how to track that stuff, but I'll bet he's the lesser fool in this scenario.

Indeed. Since he made his money finding greater fools for a Ponzi scheme, he decided to part with a small fraction on the ultimate (until now) celebration of foolishness.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Even if I were to supply my own creamy peanut butter, deep inside I would feel, as BillyCoxDodgers3B has stated, that I were creating a forgery. My million will wait until the artist creates a creamy version.

Is the name brand of the peanut butter important to you as well?

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Is the name brand of the peanut butter important to you as well?

I should have paid closer attention...I'm a Skippy man, so hopefully the artist will also produce a line featuring my chosen brand.

Brian

[Peter_Spaeth]

LOLOL. Just too much of a generation gap for me. Carry on, cryptobro.

The buyer on Wednesday was Justin Sun, founder of the Tron blockchain network, who outbid six others in the auction. He paid in crypto, Reuters reported.

"This is not just an artwork," Reuters reported Sun telling Sotheby's in a statement shortly after the purchase. "It represents a cultural phenomenon that bridges the worlds of art, memes, and the cryptocurrency community. I believe this piece will inspire more thought and discussion in the future and will become a part of history."

[theshowandme]

Just lost my shot at cashing out the $1 million

[Snowman]

It's called money laundering, and they're laughing at us.

[brunswickreeves]

Was it authenticated and graded at least? Maybe it’s a Gem Mint 10?!

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Snowman

It's called money laundering, and they're laughing at us.

Yes, of course they are.

Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

Was it authenticated and graded at least? Maybe it’s a Gem Mint 10?!

Grading doesn't matter when it comes to fine art. Nor does restoration. But authentication is all-important. Therefore the provenance of a piece is key.

And of course it's "expert" opinion that determines whether a piece of artwork is "fine" or not. Therefore if a 150 year old painting is found in a garage and it's adjudged to have been painted by Vincent Van Gogh, it's "worth" $millions. But if it's adjudged to have been painted by some other painter living down the street, it won't fetch a euro. But of course it's the same painting and its quality hasn't changed.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

Absolutely no one aside from cryptobros want a world currency that is so volatile that you can order something for delivery months away (commodity markets, especially) that can drop or rise 20-30%+ on a whim and be considered absolute normal behavior for that currency.

As an aside that's related to the artwork. The banana and tape are not the actual artwork, the rights to post the banana + duct tape and proper instructions for how to do it is what's actually being sold. It's quite similar to the NFT market, though not the same.

I'd like to see someone else tape a banana to a wall with duct tape, then hire a lawyer to challenge the "rights" the 6.2 mil buyer supposedly paid for.

How does one copyright or patent the taping of a banana, so as to obtain (and then sell) the rights to that exclusive privilege?

[BioCRN]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I'd like to see someone else tape a banana to a wall with duct tape, then hire a lawyer to challenge the "rights" the 6.2 mil buyer supposedly paid for.

How does one copyright or patent the taping of a banana, so as to obtain (and then sell) the rights to that exclusive privilege?

The COA from the original artist is where the value is derived.

I think it's stupid. If you took a poll most of the world would thing it's stupid, but the $6m+ winning bid wasn't a single offer. Many people jumped in the fray to be the person who owned the right to say they can display banana+duct tape under the original artist's name.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

The COA from the original artist is where the value is derived.

I think it's stupid. If you took a poll most of the world would thing it's stupid, but the $6m+ winning bid wasn't a single offer. Many people jumped in the fray to be the person who owned the right to say they can display banana+duct tape under the original artist's name.

It was other crypto bros he was bidding against. Nothing about it was legitimate. Sotheby’s should be ashamed.

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

I’ll take $1 million

That’s not real duct tape…


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[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

That’s not real duct tape…


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Nope. Looks like trim tape. Just makes it more artistic and desirable.......and portable.

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Nope. Looks like trim tape. Just makes it more artistic and desirable.......and portable.

Are you alleging that it’s trimmed??

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Nope. Looks like trim tape. Just makes it more artistic and desirable.......and portable.

And leaves painted surfaces intact when removed. I wall-mount all my produce and food product jars under 3 pounds with it.

Duct tape makes it art, so that is why avoid using it. To avoid potential lawsuits, of course.


Brian

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

And leaves painted surfaces intact when removed. I wall-mount all my produce and food product jars under 3 pounds with it.

Duct tape makes it art, so that is why avoid using it. To avoid potential lawsuits, of course.


Brian

Do you have a special technique for mounting raspberries and blueberries? Those always give me trouble.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by ASF123

Do you have a special technique for mounting raspberries and blueberries? Those always give me trouble.

Silicone backing and drip mat. Keeps from staining the walls/floors and countertops.

COA Not Included.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Silicone backing and drip mat. Keeps from staining the walls/floors and countertops.

COA Not Included.

Wax paper, aluminum foil and general apathy about the appearance of your kitchen area is also encouraged.

[ASF123]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Wax paper, aluminum foil and general apathy about the appearance of your kitchen area is also encouraged.

Kitchen? Were you raised by wolves or something? Fine art belongs in the parlour.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by ASF123

Kitchen? Were you raised by wolves or something? Fine art belongs in the parlour.

Fair enough.

[Beercan collector]

Sorry but not the same amount of thought or effort put into this ,
The tape is inferior and wrinkled up ,
5 or 10,000 if you’re lucky

Originally Posted by theshowandme

I’ll take $1 million

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by gunboat82

He didn't pay $6.2M for banana art. He paid $6.2M for the kind of publicity you can only get by doing something as attention-grabbing as paying $6.2M for a banana.

If memory serves me right, that's one of the justifications Todd McFarlane made for paying $3 million for the Mark McGwire home run ball. According to a 2022 Athletic article, McFarlane has "spoken several times in recent years about the money angle, saying that the balls more than paid for themselves because curiosity about them in the business world opened doors to additional deals and revenue."

[KCRfan1]

Don,

You carry on with your Avant-Garde work. The peasants and nay sayers will always have something to say.

The banana art is a cheap imitation of Andy Warhols album cover art.

Peanut butter with blue trim tape is inspired.

[JollyElm]

I've been using the same technique for years, but like all true artistes, my focus will always be solely dedicated to the nude female form.*

nudetapedtothewall.jpg


*For the heathens amongst us, I blurred out my young model's God-given fun parts so as not to offend. (Scoff!!)

[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by ASF123

Do you have a special technique for mounting raspberries and blueberries? Those always give me trouble.

Rubber mallet just not hard enough to break the Sheetrock…


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[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

I've been using the same technique for years, but like all true artistes, my focus will always be solely dedicated to the nude female form.

Now that I call fine art!

Originally Posted by JollyElm

For the heathens amongst us, I blurred out my young model's God-given fun parts so as not to offend.

A pity to be sure.

[Yoda]

Don, I love it. May I pay in bananas?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

Don,

You carry on with your Avant-Garde work. The peasants and nay sayers will always have something to say.

The banana art is a cheap imitation of Andy Warhols album cover art.

Peanut butter with blue trim tape is inspired.

+1

You might try cutting off an ear to see if that will accelerate your artistic fame.

[conor912]

I bet PSA would find a way to slab it...