There’s no way CSG actually graded this “T206 Cobb”…

[luciobar1980]

Right?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/37407598650...mis&media=COPY

[jamest206]

It got the EBay check of approval. It clearly looks fake. It’s out of a holder in two pictures. The slab purposely has it blurred at the top where it’s held in and then you have the fake grade. Wow EBay-

[pokerplyr80]

There is a t206 Wagner up for 100k, rare Tolstoi back version. Also backed by ebay authenticity guarantee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39405038566...mis&media=COPY

[npa589]

Ah - the rare black-type Arial font version!

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

There is a t206 Wagner up for 100k, rare Tolstoi back version. Also backed by ebay authenticity guarantee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39405038566...mis&media=COPY

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by jamest206

It got the EBay check of approval. It clearly looks fake. It’s out of a holder in two pictures. The slab purposely has it blurred at the top where it’s held in and then you have the fake grade. Wow EBay-

The card has to go through the authentication process after being sold. The authenticity guarantee doesn't mean eBay has authenticated it already before sale.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by jayshum

The card has to go through the authentication process after being sold. The authenticity guarantee doesn't mean eBay has authenticated it already before sale.

+1

[D. Bergin]

Here's the one from the CSG site.

https://www.csgcards.com/certlookup/1022374001/

[jcmtiger]

Looks like the same card.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Looks like the same card.

I don't know. I won't speak on the CSG card, but the one in the listing looks like it's a photocopy of the CSG card, and then photoshopped into a holder.

Weird.

[Yoda]

The seller has nothing currently available to sell except this Cobb. Always a red flag for me.

[luciobar1980]

Hmm, yeah, I really don't know what's going on. The ebay listing made my mind yell FAKE, but the one on the CSG site looks ok.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by jayshum

The card has to go through the authentication process after being sold. The authenticity guarantee doesn't mean eBay has authenticated it already before sale.

Makes sense. Still seems odd to see an obvious fake with an authenticity guarantee to me though.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Makes sense. Still seems odd to see an obvious fake with an authenticity guarantee to me though.

The guarantee is that it will go through the authenticity process, not that it will be deemed authentic.

[pokerplyr80]

But who's paying for a $1 card to go through that process? And if ebay is, maybe they should hire someone to weed some of these out.

[GasHouseGang]

I thought you didn't have to go through the Ebay authentication process if the card is already graded. Wouldn't this card avoid the verification process?

[pokerplyr80]

I may have confused the issue by posting that fake Wagner. That was the card I was referring to. But in general I was just curious. If someone posts a fake raw card for a high price and it gets that authenticity guarantee someone is paying for that card to be shipped to the authenticator and back, and for that service. Who pays for it?

[Alexcards]

I own 80+ Cobbs T205s, T206s, T202s, etc... the CSG Red Cobb "1" looks perfectly fine to me. I've actually graded a number of cards with CSG (Andy Broome) and I think they do a pretty good job with the tobacco cards I've submitted to them. I also like their new holder. These guys are the #1 graders of comics, paper money and coins.... they have deep pockets and they know what they are doing. They'll be a major player down the road. Just my 2 cents worth.

[luciobar1980]

Originally Posted by Alexcards

I own 80+ Cobbs T205s, T206s, T202s, etc... the CSG Red Cobb "1" looks perfectly fine to me. I've actually graded a number of cards with CSG (Andy Broome) and I think they do a pretty good job with the tobacco cards I've submitted to them. I also like their new holder. These guys are the #1 graders of comics, paper money and coins.... they have deep pockets and they know what they are doing. They'll be a major player down the road. Just my 2 cents worth.

FOr the record, I am a fan of CSG as well. Something about the card in the listing didnt look right to me though. If anything I believed the card to be fake, but I may be wrong. That back looked to me like that crackling you see on "aged" fakes.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

FOr the record, I am a fan of CSG as well. Something about the card in the listing didnt look right to me though. If anything I believed the card to be fake, but I may be wrong. That back looked to me like that crackling you see on "aged" fakes.

I don't blame you. While the card on the CSG site looks good, the card in the listing either suffers from a very bad listing and photography job, a real bad photoshop job....or both.

Might be good, but the tones look much different, and I don't think I could take worse pictures of that slab and card if I tried.

Maybe they forgot to take a filter off their camera.

Like this guy.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

FOr the record, I am a fan of CSG as well. Something about the card in the listing didnt look right to me though. If anything I believed the card to be fake, but I may be wrong. That back looked to me like that crackling you see on "aged" fakes.

It looks like a piece of shi^%$ to me.. In looking a bit more i guess it could be real, I think I would need to have it in hand to be sure...
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[notfast]

Originally Posted by Alexcards

I own 80+ Cobbs T205s, T206s, T202s, etc... the CSG Red Cobb "1" looks perfectly fine to me. I've actually graded a number of cards with CSG (Andy Broome) and I think they do a pretty good job with the tobacco cards I've submitted to them. I also like their new holder. These guys are the #1 graders of comics, paper money and coins.... they have deep pockets and they know what they are doing. They'll be a major player down the road. Just my 2 cents worth.

Alex - you setting up at the national this year?

Traded you t227 miners + cash for your t205 cobb last year

[irishdenny]

Can't Fake the Paper ~ It's Real!

*How dare we question those that slab

[luciobar1980]

I guess if it's real, it's at least a UTLC..

Uniquely Terrible-Looking Card.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

There is a t206 Wagner up for 100k, rare Tolstoi back version. Also backed by ebay authenticity guarantee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/39405038566...mis&media=COPY

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
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