Anybody around the country seeing sports shows being cancelled because of Corona

[keithsky]

Was wondering if any of you guys living in different parts of the country seeing any sports shows being cancelled because of the Corona virus? I see the show in Chicago is still supposed to go on this weekend. If it does go on there is alot of autographed guests and it will be interesting to see if any cancel out of fear.

[Rich Klein]

I had my Adat Chaverim show last weekend and attendance seemed fairly normal

So far, nothing has affected the shows in DFW

Rich

[Exhibitman]

There's a new show coming up in May in Los Angeles; wonder if that will be canceled.

[T_Hamilton]

There was a show in San Jose last weekend, which is at the heart of the coronavirus in the US... all autograph guests showed up except one...

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49...ue-coronavirus

[insidethewrapper]

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

[samosa4u]

The Sport Card & Memorabilia Expo will be held in Toronto on May 1 - 3. I hope it doesn't get cancelled because it is North America's biggest hockey card show and only takes place twice a year.

https://sportcardexpo.com/

If anyone here does plan on attending, then keep your eyes on the site for updates.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

maybe you missed the memo that they are hardly testing for it here. No test kits. No need to go anywhere, especially a card show. That would be the last place on earth I would go right now but that's just me.

[buymycards]

I am setting up at the Cedar Rapids, IA show on March 29th. Hope to see you all there. I will have wipes and hand sanitizer at my table for customer use.

BYOM. (Bring Your Own Masks)

[scooter729]

We have a large show in the Boston area the weekend of April 17-19. The promoter (Rich Altman) is sending out a bunch of promos every day right now about it, adding autograph guests, etc.

I expect things such as these types of shows will end up being canceled in the coming weeks, but they seem to be all systems go at the moment.

[oldjudge]

Card shows are easy to cancel. A better question is what will happen to spectator sports. Personally, I think there will be outright cancellations or games played in empty venues. March madness might be the first one.

[90feetaway]

I think shows that heavily rely on autograph guests may be at risk. Will the talent show up due to fear/travel restrictions?

[Bugsy]

Seattle just banned events with 250 people and San Francisco just banned events with more than 1000. The majority of large St. Patrick's Day parades have already been canceled. I think this is smart. You need to act early to minimize the impact of a pandemic. Our collective memory is surprisingly short. There are many lessons to be taken from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic, including at looking what happens when you try to contain after the illness is already widespread...but most people don't even know there was an epidemic here in 1918.

[Tony Gordon]

There was a large crowd at my show in Milwaukee last weekend. I am setting up at the Wisconsin's Sports Collectors Association show this Sunday in Milwaukee. I plan to bring hand sanitizer. Milwaukee only has two reported cases of coronavirus.

[Shoeless Moe]

To continue on what Chris said, here is a very interesting article on the 1918 Flu as it pertained to Baseball:

https://baseballhall.org/discover/19...spare-baseball

[Goudey77]

Mike, I'm not picking on you but this mindset is what causes people to be irresponsible and add fuel to the fire. It's not optimal to brush off the threat of this virus and say it has not impacted a higher percentage of our population.

The way a virus like this spreads is alarming. Sharing the same air as an infected person in a hallway could put you at high risk.

Would you want a society with a reactive mindset waiting for the "million" cases or proactive and taking preventative measures.

I have elderly parents and to protect the vulnerable I would rather a see precautionary mindset coming from citizens.

Just my take.

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

[Goudey77]

The Seattle Mariners have announced that the home series openers will be played at an alternate location.

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Seattle just banned events with 250 people and San Francisco just banned events with more than 1000. The majority of large St. Patrick's Day parades have already been canceled. I think this is smart. You need to act early to minimize the impact of a pandemic. Our collective memory is surprisingly short. There are many lessons to be taken from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic, including at looking what happens when you try to contain after the illness is already widespread...but most people don't even know there was an epidemic here in 1918.

[drcy]

My church had its Sunday service via Zoom.

A close friend of mine happens to be an immunologist at Oxford University (Formerly at Harvard Medical School and the Portuguese national institute of medicine, with her doctorate from Oxford). She correctly predicted to me the widespread of the virus (She said it would be much more widespread than then advertised), but said the death rate would be much lower than advertised. Essentially, she says compare it to the seasonal flu not the black plague. She also predicted it would become a seasonal thing from now on, just like the flu. I trust her opinion on the matter over anyone else I know.

So think prudence, as with the flu season, not panic.

I'm no medical expert, but the funny thing is the people with no formal medical knowledge I've encountered who disagree with her opinion. I said to someone who said what said is wrong: "With respect, you're a 20-year-old barista serving me a coffee at the corner coffee shop. She's at Oxford."

[Goudey77]

The biggest worry at this point is healthcare providers... their ability to quickly and efficiently treat respiratory illness that comes from this virus. Especially for the elderly.

There is no proven protocol to diagnose and treat this yet. Treating it like a normal flu until further notice is not something i'd like to see happen.

Originally Posted by drcy

My church had its Sunday service via Zoom.

A close friend of mine happens to be an immunologist at Oxford University (Formerly at Harvard Medical School and the Portuguese national institute of medicine, with her doctorate from Oxford). She correctly predicted to me the widespread of the virus (She said it would be much more widespread than then advertised), but said the death rate would be much lower than advertised. Essentially, she says compare it to the seasonal flu not the black plague. She also predicted it would become a seasonal thing from now on, just like the flu. I trust her opinion on the matter over anyone else I know.

So think prudence, as with the flu season, not panic.

[Tripredacus]

There is a local show this weekend I wanted to go to, hope it is open. Worst case would be that it could be the last one I'd get to go to for awhile. I still haven't finished sorting the cards I got at the last one!

[perezfan]

In addition to the Governor banning all events with 250 people or more, they just announced that all Seattle area schools will be closed for the next 2 weeks, at a minimum.

So all concerts, sporting events, conventions, trade shows, religious gatherings, etc. are cancelled in the state of Washington, until further notice. I imagine this will continue well into April.

It's devastating to the economy here… many restaurants have already gone out of business, and parts of the Downtown that were thriving just a couple weeks ago now resemble a ghost town. So many jobs already negatively impacted or threatened... Costco HQ isn't even taking appointments for presentations (or returning emails). I'm sure it's the same with many other businesses.

I drive for LYFT on the side, but am taking a very prolonged break. My son is a waiter, and has had his hours cut by 75%. I'm pretty sure there will be a good percentage of Card Shows cancelled across the country. With all of the older people who attend, hoards of bodies under one roof, and the massive shared handling of goods, it's probably prudent to postpone these types of non-essential public events.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Card shows are easy to cancel. A better question is what will happen to spectator sports. Personally, I think there will be outright cancellations or games played in empty venues. March madness might be the first one.

https://twitter.com/NCAA/status/1237838583630721027

[JollyElm]

Perhaps it's time for sellers to start offering some incentives to drive up attendance numbers, like "Buy a graded 1952 Mantle card and get 3 wax packs of 1990 Score absolutely FREE!!!!!!"

[whitehse]

This has nothing to do with card shows but I am currently sitting in a Starbucks that is normally PACKED and there is nobody here but my wife and I. I asked if this is happening more and the workers have said they see a reduced amount of traffic inside the store but drive through seems to be increasing.

I am not one to panic but I am being prudent. I have my hand wipes that I used to wipe down the table before I sat down but in this Starbucks, its probably a good idea anyway! LOL

[insidethewrapper]

How many people got their flu shot this year and always wash their hands etc. ?? Flu kills tens of thousands a year. Hope you haven't just started to wash your hands and using sanitizers. Next year their will be another Coruna strain, how many will get shots then ??? Probably only a low percentage of people. It's crazy , close a school, but the Casino's are open with 1,000 inside with older people.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Was wondering if any of you guys living in different parts of the country seeing any sports shows being cancelled because of the Corona virus? I see the show in Chicago is still supposed to go on this weekend. If it does go on there is alot of autographed guests and it will be interesting to see if any cancel out of fear.

I generally have my auto "get" in mind ahead of the show and buy the ticket day-of. So my routine hasn't been impacted. I think flight disruptions are the only thing that would stop some of those guys as these weekends are big earners for them. Hoping to attend this Sunday.

Oh-one thing I did do in advance was buy George Gervin's rookie to be signed. I didn't want to risk not finding a raw one at the show.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Next year their will be another Coruna strain, how many will get shots then ???.

There are no shots to get--there is no vaccine. Nor is there likely to be one for THIS corona virus a year from now, much less a new strain.

[irv]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Ten's of thousands of people die each year of the flu and I don't think anything like shows etc have been cancelled. I know a few schools close at times because of the flu but that is all. I really don't understand the current situation and panic with this virus. Now if a few million cases were reported in the USA that would be news and still that would be less than 1% and about 80% of these cases have few symptoms , according to the expert doctors.

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

[Cmount76]

I have worked in a suburban city just north of NYC, in Westchester County, called New Rochelle for the past 17 years. Perhaps you have seen it in the news recently.

Sadly, what started as one man on the north end of town, moved on to his family, and then to his next door neighbor (he was driving him to the doctor.). From there, it found its way into the local synagogue, and the rest, as they say, is history.

I am not an alarmist, but prudent, common sense measures are appropriate. I hope that we are not naive enough to believe that it cannot happen to us.

I applaud the actions being taken by several neighboring school districts that are closing out of an abundance of caution, the colleges and universities moving to online learning, the NCAA for playing games without fans (going to be quite a different experience to watch), and for all of the decisions being made to protect the American people.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

How many people got their flu shot this year and always wash their hands etc. ?? Flu kills tens of thousands a year. Hope you haven't just started to wash your hands and using sanitizers. Next year their will be another Coruna strain, how many will get shots then ??? Probably only a low percentage of people. It's crazy , close a school, but the Casino's are open with 1,000 inside with older people.

Despite the fact that a significant portion of people in this country get flu shots, roughly 35,000 people die from it every year. That should not bring anyone comfort in this case. COVAD19 is more virulent and no one had any immunity to it. We have just seen the tip of the iceberg so far in this country. As a country we have been slow to respond to it so far. Hopefully, this does not come back to bite us too badly.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Despite the fact that a significant portion of people in this country get flu shots, roughly 35,000 people die from it every year. That should not bring anyone comfort in this case. COVAD19 is more virulent and no one had any immunity to it. We have just seen the tip of the iceberg so far in this country. As a country we have been slow to respond to it so far. Hopefully, this does not come back to bite us too badly.

I agree 100%... Seems that the orange man in chief has changed his stance should be interesting to hear what he says tonight.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I agree 100%... Seems that the orange man in chief has changed his stance should be interesting to hear what he says tonight.

STFU, dipshit!!!!!!

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by irv

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Canada now has over 100 cases of Coronavirus. Your government is allocating over 1 billion dollars to respond. Is the media in Canada also corrupt and biased? I think you are biased, not the media.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by irv

I agree! I think this is way overblown and unnecessary panic all driven by the propaganda/corrupt/bias media.

Regular flu kills thousands a year but nary word about that??? Mmm, wonder why?

""CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.""
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

A couple reasons:

1. This virus is, as it stands, both marginally more contagious and has a marginally higher mortality rate than the common flu. Having one of these two attributes of a virus strain keep the virus "marginally" more dangerous. Have both makes it "exponentially" more dangerous. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

2. The virus is "novel" or new, meaning it's exposure to a human population at large is also new. This heightens the chance the virus mutates into an even more dangerous strain. The Spanish Flu outbreak during WW1 was actually broken into two waves - a first wave where the strain featured characteristics similar to the common flu (mortality rates clustered within the eldery, extremely young, and at risk). In the second, the virus then mutated into a strain that was almost equally as devastating to healthy young adults who previously the least at risk group. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

3. The "regular" flu is already firmly entrenched into our population. There is hardly a section of the globe that doesn't have a "flu season" now. The farther this strain expands and the larger the population that is infected the greater the risk this strain enters the rotation and reappears. This is especially dangerous because of number one. Exceptional measures might prevent this.

In itself covid-19 is lower on the list of dangerous viruses, there are plenty of things much much worse, but the reasons listed above and others give cause to isolate and "kill" this virus while it is still novel. Sports organizations, Universities, and in some cases entire regions are shutting down not because of something they read on facebook or watched on the news. They are taking extreme measures because top health organizations are recommending they do so.

Am I personally fearful of the virus? Not really. The only fear I have at the moment is the economic impact the virus will almost certainly soon have on my business. In looking at the greater picture though, we are at the cusp of measures most of us haven't seen in our lifetime so I believe the major health organizations feel the need to contain it quickly is warranted. How the media factors into this I'm not sure other than yeah, some of the most extreme medical efforts we have seen in some time are being thrown at this virus so I would expect them to report on it extensively.

[irv]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Canada now has over 100 cases of Coronavirus. Your government is allocating over 1 billion dollars to respond. Is the media in Canada also corrupt and biased? I think you are biased, not the media.

Our leader up here is a moron and is destroying this country. He is doing this/pandering for votes, nothing more, trust me.

Of course the media up here is biased. The Toronto Star, CTV News, CP24news, the CBC, the list goes on and on.

If anyone doesn't think this covo 19 hysteria isn't political motivated to some extent, then they have their blinders on.

Remember HiN1, swine flu, SARS, Avian Flu, Mers, Ebola and a whole host of other ones.
Fear mongering at its best.
When's the last time you have heard about Wuhan China?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Y03W
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51813876

Doctors: 98% of coronavirus patients survive, but many others could have contracted it and not known
https://www.boston25news.com/news/do...DQSQDPOYMMIU4/

[Snapolit1]

I will avoid lapsing into politics. Have messed that up a few times. Will avoid another transgression.

I don't see the point of saying "look how stupid people are." The reality of the situation is irrelevant. Not that any of us or the experts know the reality of the situation. The perception of the situation among the mass number of people is pretty bleak. Pointing out how irrational and silly you think people are is a waste of time. What's important is the perception. And that is very bleak at the moment. No one wants to get on train or planes. Have eaten out recently in some very empty restaurants. People on mass transport looking very afraid. Strange times.

Fear is a very primitive lizard brain emotion. Not really a rational one. You can explain how safe flying is and if someone doesn't want to fly you are banging your head against the wall. Ditto disease.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I will avoid lapsing into politics. Have messed that up a few times. Will avoid another transgression.

I don't see the point of saying "look how stupid people are." The reality of the situation is irrelevant. Not that any of us or the experts know the reality of the situation. The perception of the situation among the mass number of people is pretty bleak. Pointing out how irrational and silly you think people are is a waste of time. What's important is the perception. And that is very bleak at the moment. No one wants to get on train or planes. Have eaten out recently in some very empty restaurants. People on mass transport looking very afraid. Strange times.

Fear is a very primitive lizard brain emotion. Not really a rational one. You can explain how safe flying is and if someone doesn't want to fly you are banging your head against the wall. Ditto disease.

Maybe a bad choice for a meme but if you could see what is going on up here, you too would just shake your head.
Massive panic driven idiocy when Costco and other grocery stores open up all rushing/running towards the stacks of toilet paper, water and hand sanitizer.
This flu does not cause diarrhea nor has anyone anywhere said our city water is going to be turned off. It's absolutely ridiculous, but again, it shows the power the media has over the people.

The vast majority recover from this, just like the seasonal flu, and those who do pass are the same ones, health/age wise, who would also pass if they caught the flu but we are all acting like a bunch of fear driven sheep because that is what the media is telling us to do.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by irv

Maybe a bad choice for a meme but if you could see what is going on up here, you too would just shake your head.
Massive panic driven idiocy when Costco and other grocery stores open up all rushing/running towards the stacks of toilet paper, water and hand sanitizer.
This flu does not cause diarrhea nor has anyone anywhere said our city water is going to be turned off. It's absolutely ridiculous but again, it shows the power the media has over the people.

The vast majority recover from this, just like the seasonal flu, and those who do pass are the same ones, health/age wise, who would also pass if they caught it but we are all acting like a bunch of fear driven sheep because that is what the media is telling us to do.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

I don't think the media creates people's fear. I think once people feel personally at risk or fear for their family and loved ones, they go off the rails. Many horrible things have happened through human history in response to irrational fear. See Nazi Germany, lynching of innocent people, and many other terrible things. I'm not worried about my kids in college. But my 82 year old mother would be waylaid very easily and prob gone in days if she came into contact with this. That's what I'm seeing.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I don't think the media creates people's fear. I think once people feel personally at risk or fear for their family and loved ones, they go off the rails. Many horrible things have happened through human history in response to irrational fear. See Nazi Germany, lynching of innocent people, and many other terrible things. I'm not worried about my kids in college. But my 82 year old mother would be waylaid very easily and prob gone in days if she came into contact with this. That's what I'm seeing.

I disagree. Many "real" sources of information are out there but like most of us, we just continue to watch the news and read newspapers and trust/believe what they spew as being a 100% truthful, factual and telling the whole complete story.
Fear sells and they know this or else we'd be hearing how the cases in China are waning and how many have actually recovered/survived this instead of just those that have died.

I also have an 80 yr old father but he also knows, just like every winter/flu season, he needs to be careful/extra cautious.
http://voyapal.com/wp-content/upload...oronaVirus.pdf

[Snapolit1]

Not disputing that the media loves a dramatic story rather than a boring one, but the reflexive thing in many factions of the country to blame the media for any story you don't like or agree 100% with has gotten a little silly. Not that it hasn't been highly effective. Not new though.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Not disputing that the media loves a dramatic story rather than a boring one, but the reflexive thing in many factions of the country to blame the media for any story you don't like or agree 100% with has gotten a little silly. Not that it hasn't been highly effective. Not new though.

I honestly don't know how long fake news/biased news has been around, but to me, anyways, it seems like its at an all time high.

I know stateside, just like up here, many of these fake/biased news sites exist and can be easily proven if you are not so closed minded to take a look around.

I just laugh at some of yours and ours up here how they favor our leader and hate yours based on their political affiliation.

[buymycards]

Dale, please shut up with your political crap. There are plenty of other forums where you can talk about politics. And yes, calling certain media outlets "fake news" is political, whether you want to admit it or not.

Please go away.

[boysblue]

I agree with Irv on one thing...our PM (Justin Trudeau) is a moron!

[irv]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Dale, please shut up with your political crap. There are plenty of other forums where you can talk about politics. And yes, calling certain media outlets "fake news" is political, whether you want to admit it or not.

Please go away.

Bullshit! Lots of fake news out there that just doesn't pertain to politics.

If you don't like my posts, stay away. Pretty simple, isn't it??

[ullmandds]

looks like attendance at the baseball card shows in europe is going to suffer for a bit!

[buymycards]

I will say it again. Please go away. You don't contribute anything positive to the forum. Just whining about government and the media. Have you ever run for office? Maybe you should. I'm sure that you could get everything straightened out. It is easier for you to whine rather than to try to fix the problems.

[Snapolit1]

NBA has suspended their season.

Giving up millions and millions.

If you think these people are overreacting to media reports well, whatever.

[irv]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I will say it again. Please go away. You don't contribute anything positive to the forum. Just whining about government and the media. Have you ever run for office? Maybe you should. I'm sure that you could get everything straightened out. It is easier for you to whine rather than to try to fix the problems.

I'm not sure what you're babbling about as I don't even recall reading any of your posts so I assume you don't have much to bring to the site.

Just so you know, you are the one who associated fake news with politics, not me. Like I said, even though you are too blind/ignorant to see it, not all fake news is associated with politics.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

NBA has suspended their season.

Giving up millions and millions.

If you think these people are overreacting to media reports well, whatever.

We'll see how it plays out, but I think this is a knee jerk reaction.

[Bram99]

Tom Hanks has Coronavirus.

That's all I got to say about that.

[Goudey77]

I told my son that Woody has Coronavirus. He's very upset about this.

Originally Posted by Bram99

Tom Hanks has Coronavirus.

That's all I got to say about that.