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Old 02-07-2013, 12:58 PM
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Default Help: What does SGC "O-G" mean on crossover?

Just saw posted online that a strip card I submitted to SGC that had a PSA 4 and was to be slabbed "same or greater" has been labeled "O-G." I can see from their guidelines that apparently this did not meet the minimum, which was a 4. Does that mean 1) they simply left it in PSA holder 2) slabbed in SGC holder at lower grade, though advised otherwise? 3) left raw? Thanks.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:40 PM
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Just saw posted online that a strip card I submitted to SGC that had a PSA 4 and was to be slabbed "same or greater" has been labeled "O-G." I can see from their guidelines that apparently this did not meet the minimum, which was a 4. Does that mean 1) they simply left it in PSA holder 2) slabbed in SGC holder at lower grade, though advised otherwise? 3) left raw? Thanks.
Greg- I believe that if you specifically indicated that you wished the card to cross-over at the same or greater grade from PSA then the card will be returned to you in the PSA holder.

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It just means that the minimum grade you requested was not met. Yes, they would have left it in the PSA holder. Once you get the card back in hand, the grader will probably have marked on the card (usually on a graded card sleeve) what he saw that kept it from crossing over.
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How do the grade it properly while it's still in the holder?
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Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?
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The submitter makes the decision to allow them to crack the slab or not. If you don't want to take the risk, they can't be expected to open the slab without your permission.

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Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?
Me too. I have found some serious surface blemishes that weren't visible thru the case and can cover light wrinkles as well.

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what if they think it looks like a "4" (or whatever minimum grade it was requested at), open it up and realize there is a crease (or paperloss etc) they couldn't see thru the plastic and its not really a 4?
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I don't know for sure if the answers you got above or right, but I'm pretty sure they could tell just by looking at some cards through the holder, whether they think they are overgraded or not. We've seen plenty of cards posted here that are graded poorly. I have a PSA5 with paper loss on front(Old Judge card). If sure if I said don't grade it if it won't get a 5, they could tell right away it's not getting a 5 without taking it out.

Possibly, since you said it is a strip card, they may think it isn't big enough to grade. Since strip cards were hand cut, it's all very subjective anyway
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Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?
Sometimes you can get a pretty good idea.
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Frank, thank you sooooo much for that image.
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The submitter makes the decision to allow them to crack the slab or not. If you don't want to take the risk, they can't be expected to open the slab without your permission.
If youve submitted for crossover, I would have guessed that you are implicitly saying that you are ok having the slab cracked...as they cant regrade your card in the slab.
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It's not implicit if you've submitted a card and said you will only have the card graded if it meets or exceeds its current grade.
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You should consider crossing it over into a top loader. Then you can look at it however you want, it's your card.
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WOW.....no way to un-see that image........completely undoes all the images from Hooters lunch today.......
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Sometimes you can get a pretty good idea.
Thanks Frank. There is no way I can unsee that. It'll haunt me

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Post of the year!!!

Would that be considered oversized and could it be trimmed and put in a PSA 8 holder?

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Link to SGC grading chart: http://sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm

Basically says Min Grade not Met.

The procedure:
Q.) Does SGC accept cards graded by another company to be crossed over?
A.) We do offer a crossover service that reviews cards graded by other grading companies. All crossovers must be submitted under the appropriate service level according to the value of the card. Crossovers may be submitted along with raw cards at any service level. Turnaround times on crossovers vary based on the service level chosen.

The procedure for submitting cards for crossover review is easy. Simply fill out an invoice for the appropriate service level desired, and list each card notating the required minimum grade you are looking for in the ‘Variations Or Comments’ column on the invoice. You might also want to stick a post-it note on the slabs notating the minimum requirements you are looking for.

You have several options when it comes to crossovers. Whichever option you choose must be clearly listed on the invoice. We can evaluate cards for the same grade or higher, for a higher grade only, for a lower minimum grade, for any numerical grade, or we can crack the cards out and regrade them entirely. The latter option would allow for the ‘Authentic’ designation in the event our graders detect trimming or other alteration on the card. If you have any questions concerning the crossover options available, please feel free to call Customer Service at 1-800-742-9212.
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Thanks Frank. There is no way I can unsee that. It'll haunt me
Geezes, freaking ...., I really did not need to see that ....
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I sure hope that the O/P got his answer before Frank blinded us all.
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O-G= Over Graded?

Frank........

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Frank! Your wife has been gone way to long.
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