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GregMitch34 02-07-2013 12:58 PM

Help: What does SGC "O-G" mean on crossover?
 
Just saw posted online that a strip card I submitted to SGC that had a PSA 4 and was to be slabbed "same or greater" has been labeled "O-G." I can see from their guidelines that apparently this did not meet the minimum, which was a 4. Does that mean 1) they simply left it in PSA holder 2) slabbed in SGC holder at lower grade, though advised otherwise? 3) left raw? Thanks.

tbob 02-07-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1084918)
Just saw posted online that a strip card I submitted to SGC that had a PSA 4 and was to be slabbed "same or greater" has been labeled "O-G." I can see from their guidelines that apparently this did not meet the minimum, which was a 4. Does that mean 1) they simply left it in PSA holder 2) slabbed in SGC holder at lower grade, though advised otherwise? 3) left raw? Thanks.

Greg- I believe that if you specifically indicated that you wished the card to cross-over at the same or greater grade from PSA then the card will be returned to you in the PSA holder.

vintagetoppsguy 02-07-2013 01:41 PM

It just means that the minimum grade you requested was not met. Yes, they would have left it in the PSA holder. Once you get the card back in hand, the grader will probably have marked on the card (usually on a graded card sleeve) what he saw that kept it from crossing over.

cubsfan-budman 02-07-2013 01:44 PM

How do the grade it properly while it's still in the holder?

GregMitch34 02-07-2013 01:45 PM

Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?

packs 02-07-2013 01:49 PM

The submitter makes the decision to allow them to crack the slab or not. If you don't want to take the risk, they can't be expected to open the slab without your permission.

rainier2004 02-07-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1084943)
Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?

Me too. I have found some serious surface blemishes that weren't visible thru the case and can cover light wrinkles as well.

tiger8mush 02-07-2013 01:50 PM

what if they think it looks like a "4" (or whatever minimum grade it was requested at), open it up and realize there is a crease (or paperloss etc) they couldn't see thru the plastic and its not really a 4?

z28jd 02-07-2013 01:51 PM

I don't know for sure if the answers you got above or right, but I'm pretty sure they could tell just by looking at some cards through the holder, whether they think they are overgraded or not. We've seen plenty of cards posted here that are graded poorly. I have a PSA5 with paper loss on front(Old Judge card). If sure if I said don't grade it if it won't get a 5, they could tell right away it's not getting a 5 without taking it out.

Possibly, since you said it is a strip card, they may think it isn't big enough to grade. Since strip cards were hand cut, it's all very subjective anyway

frankbmd 02-07-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34 (Post 1084943)
Yeah, I've always had that question--how they grade looking through plastic?

Sometimes you can get a pretty good idea.

Sean 02-07-2013 02:00 PM

Frank, thank you sooooo much for that image.:D:D:D:D:D

cubsfan-budman 02-07-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1084945)
The submitter makes the decision to allow them to crack the slab or not. If you don't want to take the risk, they can't be expected to open the slab without your permission.

If youve submitted for crossover, I would have guessed that you are implicitly saying that you are ok having the slab cracked...as they cant regrade your card in the slab.

packs 02-07-2013 02:09 PM

It's not implicit if you've submitted a card and said you will only have the card graded if it meets or exceeds its current grade.

Matthew H 02-07-2013 02:22 PM

You should consider crossing it over into a top loader. Then you can look at it however you want, it's your card.

autograf 02-07-2013 02:24 PM

WOW.....no way to un-see that image........completely undoes all the images from Hooters lunch today.......

Bocabirdman 02-07-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1084953)
Sometimes you can get a pretty good idea.

Thanks Frank. There is no way I can unsee that. It'll haunt me:eek:

BengoughingForAwhile 02-07-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1084953)
Sometimes you can get a pretty good idea.

Post of the year!!!

Would that be considered oversized and could it be trimmed and put in a PSA 8 holder?

brianp-beme 02-07-2013 03:40 PM

The Original O-G, yeah you know me
 
O-G plus that photo = Octomom-Gross

Brian

pawpawdiv9 02-07-2013 04:03 PM

Link to SGC grading chart: http://sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm

Basically says Min Grade not Met.

The procedure:
Q.) Does SGC accept cards graded by another company to be crossed over?
A.) We do offer a crossover service that reviews cards graded by other grading companies. All crossovers must be submitted under the appropriate service level according to the value of the card. Crossovers may be submitted along with raw cards at any service level. Turnaround times on crossovers vary based on the service level chosen.

The procedure for submitting cards for crossover review is easy. Simply fill out an invoice for the appropriate service level desired, and list each card notating the required minimum grade you are looking for in the ‘Variations Or Comments’ column on the invoice. You might also want to stick a post-it note on the slabs notating the minimum requirements you are looking for.

You have several options when it comes to crossovers. Whichever option you choose must be clearly listed on the invoice. We can evaluate cards for the same grade or higher, for a higher grade only, for a lower minimum grade, for any numerical grade, or we can crack the cards out and regrade them entirely. The latter option would allow for the ‘Authentic’ designation in the event our graders detect trimming or other alteration on the card. If you have any questions concerning the crossover options available, please feel free to call Customer Service at 1-800-742-9212.

glchen 02-07-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bocabirdman (Post 1084997)
Thanks Frank. There is no way I can unsee that. It'll haunt me:eek:

Geezes, freaking ...., I really did not need to see that ....

Bocabirdman 02-07-2013 05:01 PM

I sure hope that the O/P got his answer before Frank blinded us all.:D

teetwoohsix 02-07-2013 05:15 PM

O-G= Over Graded?

Frank........:D

Sincerely, Clayton

Texxxx 02-07-2013 06:36 PM

Frank! Your wife has been gone way to long. :eek:


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