Goodwin Pickups

[Matt]

How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:

[calvindog]

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

Calm down Jeff. Maybe you'll get "another shot" at those exact cards in an upcoming auction!

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, I feel fairly certain that no bidder does any stealing in a Goodwin auction. For example, two cards I kept an eye on: one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night; another went from $4500 in a May 2008 Mastro auction to $7200 last night. If only those darn folks at Mastro during heated economic times could market like Goodwin in a down economy!

I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. Given the true rarity, the fantastic aesthetic and the fact that it depicts Babe Ruth, I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at. It's possible that had I left a ceiling bid, it would have.

[Rob D.]

Not just Goodwin ... Greatwin.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

I think the fact that there is no sales history for this one contributed to keeping the price way down. ... I expected it to go for multiples of what it closed at.

And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

And now that there is history... you never know what will happen in future auctions.

I'm not anticipating any future auctions

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Matt

I'm not anticipating any future auctions

Too bad. I hear that's where the real money is made.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

...one sold for $3500 in Mastro in December 06 and went for over 10K last night;

Jeff - I'm actually surprised SGC crossed that one over; it has some pretty noticeable issues on the back.

For purposes of comparison, I've added one of mine on the right:

[Leon]

Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

[calvindog]

Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Matt, you have a problem with multiple instances of paper loss? I guess the winner values paper loss because it seems to have driven up the value of the card by 200% in just a couple years.

Jeff - if that's what that card is worth with PL, imagine what it's worth with a full back!

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Leon

Goodwin pickups? I am waiting for them to be sold again.....2nd or 3rd times are usually a charm....

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

You might be right. It might be that the 4th time we see the same thing for sale is the charm? I've been known to be wrong before....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

Nah, eventually the cards actually sell, at a lower and sometimes much lower price.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

I don't know about that strategy Leon. It seems the prices climb pretty hard with each resale. You could get killed taking this course of action.

Jim, if there was a National this week you could probably get them at a deep, deep discount.

Woops, I best shut my mouth, I don't want to get banned again.

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by Matt

How'd y'all do last night? I think I stole this:

Hey Matt,

Amid all of the puerility of this thread, this really is a nice pickup. Congrats!

[chiprop]

jeff- take it easy!

[calvindog]

Fraud isn't puerile.

[bigfish]

It is interesting that certain people target certain auction houses while a certain auction house stays out of the line of fire. If you are going to poke and investigate every card in Bill's auction, why don't you do the same for all the auction houses? Or you could just use your time doing something else more fun? Just a thought. Too much negative press here all the time. I have never had an issue with getting paid in Bill's auction. My topple bids don't get run to the top and stop short. I will only leave a topple bid in Goodwin. Cards get re auctioned all the time from all auction houses. It is the way things are going these days. My 2 cents.

[calvindog]

Which auction houses are kept out of the line of fire?

Let me count them: REA, Sloate (RIP), B & L, Huggins & Scott.

Those in the line of fire: Mastro/Legendary, Mile High, ML, Goodwin.

Are the two groups at all different to you?

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Fraud isn't puerile.

So true but was hoping to see more pickups. Maybe it's true

[Exhibitman]

GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a hobby! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're acting! You've turned an enjoyable little collection, that normal people do as a lark, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves? You, with the toughest want list, you must be almost 60... when was the last time you kissed a girl? I didn't think so! So... venture out of your apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just baseball cards, damnit, IT'S JUST BASEBALL CARDS!

J/K; much love to everyone on this Rosh Hashana (even you goyim; you know, the ones who eat mayonnaise).

[oldjudge]

Happy holidays Adam. Now that was funny!

[calvindog]

1962 Topps AL & NL Homer Kings #401:

7/14/09 eBay $247.83
3/19/09 eBay $143.62
3/1/09 eBay $224.50
2/6/09 eBay $190.61
1/20/09 eBay $271.88
11/25/08 eBay $235.99
11/14/08 Goodwin $282.00
9/18/08 eBay $214.38
9/2/08 eBay $214.83
3/11/08 eBay $153.78
3/6/08 Goodwin $192.00
1/17/08 eBay $321.11
12/3/07 eBay $133.81
11/30/07Goodwin $5,011.00
11/29/07 eBay $168.59
6/16/07 eBay $142.29
6/14/07 eBay $83.11
3/14/07 eBay $143.61
3/7/07 eBay $154.05
3/2/07 eBay $355.00
1/17/07 eBay $134.49
10/29/06 eBay $189.50

Such a difficult card to find! ONE day before Goodwin "sold" the card for over 5K it sold on ebay for $168; THREE days later on ebay it sold for $133!!!

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a hobby! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're acting! You've turned an enjoyable little collection, that normal people do as a lark, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves? You, with the want list, you must be almost 60... when was the last time you kissed a girl? I didn't think so! So... venture out of your apartments and GROW THE HELL UP! I mean, it's just baseball cards, damnit, IT'S JUST BASEBALL CARDS!

Exhibitman, with all due respect, but you've got to be kidding. So just because it's baseball cards means suspected instances of fraud should be treated differently than those that occur, say, in the securities business? Recently in a private transaction I acquired a rare card. The price was based on a reported auction transaction that, based on subsequent information, I now have reason to believe was a sham. So, yes I get the card I wanted, but at a price probably substantially higher than it would have cost had reported "market transactions" been based on real happenings. Maybe had this happened to you you would not be upset. But I am and I don't believe that fraud should be condoned in baseball cards anymore than in other businesses, and that open discussions of suspected instances should be scornfully dismissed.

[barrysloate]

Corey- in all fairness to Adam, he was parodying a sketch from SNL that William Shatner hosted quite a few years ago.

[Rich Klein]

That's why Adam posted that J/K (Just Kidding) at the end of that post. Barry nailed it; it was dripping with sarcasm about everything.

And thus; that will probably be Adam's last attempt at humour

[danmckee]

Had that in my hand at National Matt! That is a very cool piece!! Congrats, Dan.

[bigfish]

Jeff,

not sure but whoever writes the descriptions might just be in touch with their feminine side and I won't hold that against Goodwin and Company. They are great people.

Matt,

You stole that Ruth item. It is a one of a kind and was a nice deal!!

[calvindog]

Yes, Toby, we all know they are 'great' people. No one disputes that.

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, Toby, we all know they are 'great' people. No one disputes that.

Jeff, you must be a 'GREAT' lawyer that defends 'GREAT' people

[calvindog]

Bob, good second post.

I defend people according to what our laws permit - you know, the Constitution and all. I don't break the law while defending them. You can see the difference between that and fraud, right?

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

Jeff, you must be a 'GREAT' lawyer that defends 'GREAT' people

I'm not exactly sure what you meant by that comment, Bob, but it seems pretty misguided.

Although I hope to never find out for myself, by all accounts, Jeff appears to pretty a pretty damn good lawyer. (Perhaps even "great".)

As far as whom he defends, I'm proud to live in a country where EVERYONE accused of wrongdoing has the right to receive a solid defense. Your comment seems to suggest that some people don't deserve that kind of quality defense. If that's what you meant, you're in the wrong country.