N172 Old Judge Finds...Just wanted to share

[MuddyMules]

Below are seventeen N172 Old Judge cards that I came across and just wanted to share them with all of you. This is a fantastic forum and I am honored to be a member. Jay and Joe have been great in discussing the cards with me and their book is incredible. I have been a collector for over 25 years and this has been the best find of my life.

Take notice of the 1888 New York Giants Stump Weidman card with his name misspelled as Weichman and his jersey still as Detroit (so wish it was in better shape). Don't pass by the Amos Rusie, Buck Ewing, Dummy Hoy and the many other cards. All cards are authentic and were scanned inside of a soft sleeve and top loader to keep them protected as much as possible.

These were an estate sale find. My advice.......always ask, the person hosting the sale, if they have any vintage baseball items or cards. After all of the NO's, this time someone actually said YES!

[barrysloate]

Nice find...and not surprising that there are a fair number of Indianapolis players, and you are from Indiana.

[GoldenAge50s]

17 must be a magic # for OJ's---it's the exact number I found at a yard sale in the middle '80's. I had to ask the lady if she had anything in the line of baseball cards or sports items & she reached down into her sewing basket beside her & pulled out 17 OJ's!

I got them for $10 each & included was a Keefe, a Galvin & a Harry Wright! I had never ever even SEEN an OJ & didn't really know WHAT they were other than that they were very OLD!

It took me 'til the following year to close the deal & buy them!

[z28jd]

Very cool find with some interesting cards! Congrats!!

[Joe_G.]

Nice group of cards Ted. I think you should start collection OJs, you have a nice little start on an Indy team (if that is your favorite).

[z28jd]

Joe, what did I tell you about encouraging people to collect Indianapolis cards?

[MuddyMules]

Thanks all...

I have considered collecting 1889 Indianapolis players. With having the Rusie card already, it looks like it would be interesting to build, especially being from my hometown.

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Joe, what did I tell you about encouraging people to collect Indianapolis cards?

Originally Posted by MuddyMules

I have considered collecting 1889 Indianapolis players. With having the Rusie card already, it looks like it would be interesting to build, especially being from my hometown.

Well Ted, there is one Indy card that will prove difficult. John (z28jd) hoards Larry Corcoran; his 1887 cards being with Indy. John needs professional help, it's an unhealthy obsession. I'm sure no one has ever approached ~40 cards of the same player, pure insanity. One work around would be to stick to just the 1889 team as you posted.

[ctownboy]

muddymules,

Two questions:

1) Was your find recent?
2) Was it in Indy?

Living in central Indiana, I have been to some estate sales recently and asked if they had any baseball items. They all said no. I am going to be upset if the cards you found were at one of the sales I went to.

David

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Well Ted, there is one Indy card that will prove difficult. John (z28jd) hoards Larry Corcoran; his 1887 cards being with Indy. John needs professional help, it's an unhealthy obsession. I'm sure no one has ever approached ~40 cards of the same player, pure insanity. One work around would be to stick to just the 1889 team as you posted.

My philosophy is that it's better to stick to one team from a single year. If you just collect '89's then the collection will be more uniform and cohesive. Really, the 87's, 88's, and 89's ought to be treated as separate sets (as many folks here already know this is my opinion). An '89 Indy set would be a cool thing to complete. As for hoarding a certain player, not cool. Just my opinion.

Congrats and nice find.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

My philosophy is that it's better to stick to one team from a single year. If you just collect '89's then the collection will be more uniform and cohesive. Really, the 87's, 88's, and 89's ought to be treated as separate sets (as many folks here already know this is my opinion). An '89 Indy set would be a cool thing to complete. As for hoarding a certain player, not cool. Just my opinion.

Congrats and nice find.

I agree, hoarding isn't cool, but collecting one player is very cool. As for 1889 Indy cards, I have no objections there

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

muddymules,

Two questions:

1) Was your find recent?
2) Was it in Indy?

Living in central Indiana, I have been to some estate sales recently and asked if they had any baseball items. They all said no. I am going to be upset if the cards you found were at one of the sales I went to.

David

I have been hitting sales for a few years and always ask if they have anything. It's normally "I just sold everything I had" or "no". I found these about six months ago in Indy. I just wanted to do some research first and see what I had, before I posted the pictures. I've only been lucky twice, once was with these cards and another was a Sinclair Fuel Contest Babe Ruth Autographed baseball (which is still a debate on whether the ball is signed by Babe Ruth or his secretary at the time).

Now, if I collected late 1980's and early 1990's cards, I'd have enough firewood to last forever. That stuff lingers at practically ever sale. There is nothing worse than asking for vintage baseball items and the person brings out tubs of 1989 Donruss cards telling me they would like to keep them for their retirement and then asking me to make an offer. I normally just say "you probably better keep these and let them sit, maybe someday they'll be worth more money". I don't have the heart to tell them to set them on fire.

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Well Ted, there is one Indy card that will prove difficult. John (z28jd) hoards Larry Corcoran; his 1887 cards being with Indy. John needs professional help, it's an unhealthy obsession. I'm sure no one has ever approached ~40 cards of the same player, pure insanity. One work around would be to stick to just the 1889 team as you posted.

Thanks Joe. I do like the thoughts of the 1889 team. It looks like it would be fun to chase. I have done some research, but feel free to send me any knowledge you have for the 1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers. I love chasing history and the research is as fun.

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I agree, hoarding isn't cool, but collecting one player is very cool. As for 1889 Indy cards, I have no objections there

I do have one player that I am trying collect every card, which is Hammerin' Hank Aaron. I have many of his cards and someday will have them all.

Glad that you're not after the 1889 Indy cards. I'm not sure if anyone else is either. I'm going to start looking into this more and see how it can come about.

[kkkkandp]

There are some very rare and desirable players among what you found. That find is an excellent start to an Old Judge collection! Congrats!

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I agree, hoarding isn't cool, but collecting one player is very cool. As for 1889 Indy cards, I have no objections there

Call it hoarding or call it collecting, but either way, I think that what you're doing is uncool.

[kkkkandp]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

Call it hoarding or call it collecting, but either way, I think that what you're doing is uncool.

If somone is passionate about a particular player and pays more than what the rest of the general populace is willing to pay, why is that uncool?

How is that any different from any other item up for auction?

[cyseymour]

Originally Posted by kkkkandp

If somone is passionate about a particular player and pays more than what the rest of the general populace is willing to pay, why is that uncool?

How is that any different from any other item up for auction?

It's because other people might want that card for their sets or subsets and can't get it because the person has bought every one they could get their hands on. Same goes for the T206 Titus. Just uncool, I think, not that it isn't perfectly legal within their rights to do so, just that it is also within my rights to say what I think.

[kkkkandp]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

It's because other people might want that card for their sets or subsets and can't get it because the person has bought every one they could get their hands on. Same goes for the T206 Titus. Just uncool, I think, not that it isn't perfectly legal within their rights to do so, just that it is also within my rights to say what I think.

...all that says to me is that all those other people really don't want it as badly as they think they do. Have you read the other Net 54 thread about overpaying for a card?

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by cyseymour

It's because other people might want that card for their sets or subsets and can't get it because the person has bought every one they could get their hands on. Same goes for the T206 Titus. Just uncool, I think, not that it isn't perfectly legal within their rights to do so, just that it is also within my rights to say what I think.

If possible, please take your dispute to your own thread. You're kind of ruining my buzz.

[yanks12025]

May I ask how much the seller asked for them?

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

May I ask how much the seller asked for them?

Honestly, I would prefer not to say what I paid for them, but thank you for asking. What I will tell you is that the person was asking less than what I actually paid for them. I believe in paying a fair price and not taking someone for granted.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by MuddyMules

Honestly, I would prefer not to say what I paid for them, but thank you for asking. What I will tell you is that the person was asking less than what I actually paid for them. I believe in paying a fair price and not taking someone for granted.

.....You are a class act. Made my day . Thanks .

[MuddyMules]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

.....You are a class act. Made my day . Thanks .

Thank you. I do try to be a decent human being. I remember going to card shows when I was a kid and getting taken a few times, because I did not know any better. I told myself that I would not end up like one of those guys.

[h2oya311]

Ted B. - congrats on the find!!! Very nice!

[Jeffrompa]

I need to dig through my storage units more .

[RCMcKenzie]

Very cool find, Ted B. California Brown is an easy card, unless you want that pose. I think you should just collect what you like. I think it's just fine to collect n172 by player, and no problem at all if folks post that they disagree with that collecting style. Bottom line, if you want the card, keep bidding until they stop...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Jeffrompa

I need to dig through my storage units more .

From what I remember you dug through one that wound up pretty good.... .....my most expensive purchase ever on ebay....by about 6x.....