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Originally Posted by tedzan
We had a interesting and spirited discussion on this subject 7 years ago. Check-out this thread (dated 1-26-2009).. "Continuing the Ty Cobb/Ty Cobb back debate"
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92026
If you don't have the time to read thru this very informative thread, then I'll save you the trouble by this excerpting this Post (#89) in it......
These Feb and Mar 1910 Newspaper clippings cinched for me....these dates fall within the T206 rubric....this Cobb card is indeed the 525th card in the T206 set.
TED Z
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Just to add a little more info - I did a little bit of research on Ty Cobb tobacco awhile ago, and the earliest references to it that I've found precede those in the Macon newspaper.
Nov. 16 1909, in the Reidsville Review newspaper (Reidsville is the home of Factory 33), is the earliest mention I found. The other mentions in the Reidsville Review are from Jan 25 and 28, 1910, and Webster's Weekly (Reidsville) on Jan 27, 1910.
I don't consider the Ty Cobb a T206 card, i just think it is a one-off card. I'm fine with the assumption that it was included in the tins (which I don't think there is any proof of yet, but makes sense). FR Penn joined the trust secretly around 1903/4 I think, but to the outside world it was still presented as an independent. I don't think it become publicly outed as controlled by the trust until 1910 (I've misplaced the newspaper article that indicated this, and may have my years mixed up) - if this is the case and the card was distributed in 1909/10 then it could have appeared to just be a card from a different tobacco company. It was definitely distributed in a different way from other T206s as the only card from Factory 33.
But that's all my opinion, and I'd be happy to see further evidence.