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Old 06-22-2007, 08:33 PM
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Posted By: J Levine

Okay...just picked up my second gray with stats this week and looking at the back of the card again, I wondered about the stats...then I realized they were not pitcher's statistics. They were for a batter...then I remembered that the t205 Moran's stray line of type comes from the Mattern bio so I wondered if the stats for Gray were from someone else. First I checked my Baseball Almanac to see stats for Gray. In 1910 Gray was only in 34 games, not the 80 listed. So now I knew they were not Gray's stats. Next, I pulled out my T205 set (love saying that!) and started checking backs. Eventually I found one that matched. In fact, it is the only one in the set that matches the stats for 1910. The player is Phelps. I know the scans are not the best but here they are. Just a little more T205 research for you all to ponder.
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Old 06-22-2007, 09:06 PM
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Posted By: Matt E.

One more interesting fact about this set. Nice pick up of a very tough card to get in any condition.

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Old 06-22-2007, 09:56 PM
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Posted By: Russ Bright

WOW! It's not just a Dolly gray with stats - it's a Dolly Gray w/ Stray line! Mine came back graded SGC "a" and i can't tell why... glad I have one though!

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Old 06-23-2007, 06:36 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Hey Joshua- that was a great find. Perhaps after they posted the wrong stats, they simply removed them from a future print run.

And Russ- you got the Gray from me, and that was from an original family collection that never saw the light of day. You were the first collector outside the family to own it. It wasn't a beauty, and only merited a grade of 1, but why the authentic? Another grading inconsistency!

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Posted By: Jeff

I always appreciate absolutely useless information that, and I like it even more when someone else does the legwork to find it. Thanks for the info....very interesting.

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Old 06-23-2007, 11:22 AM
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Posted By: Russ Bright

Hey Barry, I was thinking that MAYBE it would have been an SGC20 - I have had cards with tobacco staining get pretty good grades- I might crack and resubmit- I HATE doing that as it messes up the population report, but I would rather have any grade than NOT have one - Strange that noone else had ever noticed this, Shawn? you around? what do you think?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Russ- they didn't give you any explanation for the grade? It was badly stained, but otherwise looked perfectly normal.

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Old 06-23-2007, 12:40 PM
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Posted By: J Levine

Barry,
I think what happened is that they just left the type in the press and when they realized the mistake, they fixed it by removing the line. Same thing probably happened with the Moran, someone just left the last line of moveable type in the press for the Mattern. Not sure how the backs were printed but I assume it started with moveable type. Just another theory.

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Sounds plausible enough.

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