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Old 09-20-2023, 08:41 AM
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Default Good/Bad/Ugly? - 1959 OTD Program & Mantle Booklet

These items are on the way to me now. Any thoughts as to the authenticity?

The Mantle sigs are both extremely abnormal to put it mildly as is the Joe DiMaggio. However, the other autographs on the OTD program appear to be correct to me. I'd love to get the thoughts of the group as to whether these are indeed good, bad, and/or ugly and which ones are authentic, if any.

Both of these items originated from the collection of former Yankee batboy from 1959-1962, Fred Bengis.

Signatures on the OTD Program:
Lloyd Waner
Frank Baker
Monte Irvin
Jim Konstanty
Joe Black
Jackie Robinson
Lefty Gomez
Bobby Richardson
Mickey Mantle?
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:31 AM
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It looks like the same person signed all the blue pen signatures to me.

Look at the flair at the end of Waner and Baker.
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Old 09-22-2023, 09:20 AM
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Exclamation 1959 OTD Program - Are these good?

I received the OTD program and the Mantle booklet yesterday. On further review, I'm pretty confident the signature on the Mantle booklet is no good. I feel better about the autographs on the OTD program, but I'd like some reassurance and/or advice.

Again, main concerns are with the Lloyd Waner, Frank Baker, and Jackie Robinson signatures.

All of the signers are listed in the program as being in attendance that day.

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Old 09-22-2023, 05:29 PM
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While certainly not an expert on all of these autographs, I think the 7 autographs on the left side of the lineup page (Waner, Baker, Irvin, Black, Robinson, Gomez, Konstanty) may all be good. The Mantle on the right side is certainly not. I don't like the Dimaggio or the Connors on the other pages either.

Not sure on Richardson or why he would have even been on there as he had only been in the major leagues a few years and certainly not an old timer at that time but it looks close to his autograph from that time period.

Hopefully others will opine and admittedly I could be in left field but somebody has to take a stab and these look reasonable to me from that time period.
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Old 09-24-2023, 09:42 AM
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I agree, the seven on the left look to be authentic and match other signatures by them. All the other autographs look questionable except maybe the Richardson.
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Old 09-24-2023, 01:01 PM
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Thank you for those that have replied. In the end, there were two Old Timer's Day programs. I only received the one with the Jackie and others. The other one had the Chuck Conners and DiMaggio.

For the one I have, I believe the Lloyd Waner, Frank Baker, Monte Irvin, Joe Black, Konstanty, Jackie Robinson, Gomez and Bob Richardson are good and the Mickey Mantle is pretty obviously bad.

I know there are some really knowledgeable people on the board so I'd really like to get additional opinions, especially from someone well versed in Jackie Robinson autos.

If it is believed to be good, I plan on getting it authenticated in November. I just want to have a level of certainty before doing so.

Also, any thoughts as to value? Perhaps around $800 or so?
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