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Old 07-15-2023, 06:02 PM
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Default Anyone slab/grade S81 silks?

PSA? SGC? Bueller?
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Old 07-15-2023, 06:20 PM
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PSA does not grade them. Not sure about Beckett. SGC does grade them, but they can be wildly inconsistent.

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Old 07-15-2023, 08:39 PM
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PSA does not grade them. Not sure about Beckett. SGC does grade them, but they can be wildly inconsistent.
Thanks, but those are S74s. I was asking about the larger S81 silks.
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Old 07-15-2023, 10:36 PM
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SGC has graded some in the past. Not sure if they do anymore, but it is definitely worth checking in with them.
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Lol, duh. Sorry, my bad.

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Old 07-16-2023, 02:05 PM
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I had an S81 Home Run Baker I sent to an auction house who sent it to SGC. Even though it had a horizontal tear, SGC gave it a 2 and it did well in the auction. I think a numeric grade always adds value. In this case the silk was encapsulated protecting it from tearing further. Getting a 2 was fortunate so it was a win all the way around. Protecting the silk was great so it wouldnt tear further. I do agree SGC's criteria for S74 silks is wildly inconsistent due to the downgrade on the factory fold and ignoring fraying which by most collectors' standards is the most important criteria on silks. I am not sure but suspect they would have the same inconsistencies on the larger S81s. A beautiful set for sure. Here is the Baker before encapsulation. The crease on the right middle was actually a separation (the tear I refer too) and there was also a tack hole bottom left. I had most of the set so if you have any questions send me an email or PM . I would be happy to share my experiences. As mentioned, if you post the items, you may get more replies as SGC does grade S81 silks.
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Old 07-16-2023, 02:13 PM
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Yes, SGC grades them. Here is one of a few that sold in an REA just a couple of months ago:
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Another from the same auction
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Old 07-16-2023, 04:23 PM
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Thanks, Rick, great information and photos. How many are in the set and how close did you get to completion? Did you have a WaJo? Here is mine, which I had framed about 25 years ago. As I recall, it had a little more fraying at the top and bottom than the ones pictured, but does have a gorgeous silky sheen to it, which is not true of most of the S81s I've seen. As a big fan of these--one of my favorite WaJos issues, for sure, I've always wondered about that, why so many have more of a matt finish than a silky one. Do you have any clue why that would be the case? Lastly, assuming mine would get a numerical grade, could you give a guess as to value? Thanks again, Hank.
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Old 07-16-2023, 05:34 PM
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Sorry Hank, the ones I showed are not mine and I do not collect them. I just remembered that I saw them recently and looked at the REA auction. Here is the Old Cardboard site with the gallery showing all 25 baseball subjects.

https://oldcardboard.com/o/s/s81/s81.asp?cardsetID=1077
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