1962 Salada Coins

[JCRedbird]

Needing some help understanding the Salada checklist. I know the first issue was 180 coins and then expanded to 200 with the entry of the Mets and 45s. Each team had 10 coins but I believe only 13 of the 20 were new players (8 Houston and 5 Mets). I’ve read that 21 players were added with the new issue and 21 were dropped from the original 180. Finally my understanding is there are 221 different players excluding team changes, variations, etc. Somebody help me. I can’t make this math work. Anyone have a list of the players that were dropped and those added?

[UKCardGuy]

Hi Richard,

There were 180 coins initially released. They added 20 for the 2 new expansion teams. They also took the opportunity to correct 21 errors in the first release.

So 180 original + 20 for the expansion teams + 21 for the correction= 221

[JCRedbird]

Thanks, and perhaps the checklist I’ve been using is wrong. But the 20 players added were not all new to the checklist. For instance #123a Zimmer was in the original 180 as a Cub and was then shown (123b) as one of the 10 Mets in the 200 edition. I believe only 13 of the 20 players comprising the Mets and 45s checklists are “new” players. Only 5 Mets are “new” and 8 45s are “new”. Several articles I’ve read have said 21 players were dropped from the original 180 issue and 21 new (different) players were added for the 200 edition. But to bring the total number of different players to 221, then 28 new players would have to be added. What am I missing?

[Cliff Bowman]

Interesting subject, I know on the Cubs the original print run had Ed Bouchee, Richie Ashburn, Don Zimmer, Ernie Banks as an outfielder, and Andre Rodgers as a shortstop, on the next print run Bouchee, Ashburn, and Zimmer were discontinued as Cubs and replaced by Jim McKnight, Bob Will, and Billy Williams, the Banks was changed to shortstop and the Rodgers was changed to first base to keep a player at every position for the plastic shield that held the coins, I presume.

[bobsbbcards]

Here’s the checklist from Keyman Collectibles:

http://keymancollectibles.com/miscel...nschecklis.htm

[UKCardGuy]

I probably should have been clearer in my original post. I believe there are more than 221 coins if you include the variations/errors. I was only explaining how the expansion teams and the updates got from 180 to the total of 221 the op was mentioning.

My checklist for the 1962 Salada includes 269 coins (with all the variations) which is 5 more than Keyman Collectibles. These are the 5 not in the Keyman Collectibles list:

• 64b Bobby Richardson (Black Disc)
• 64c Bobby Richardson (Red Disc)
• 64d Bobby Richardson (White Disc)
• 126b Joe Jay (Brown Sleeves)
• 192b John DeMerit (no glove)

This thread has some great info. https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=281441

If Whiteymet sees this thread, I'm sure he can provide more clarity.

[GasHouseGang]

Every thread needs some pictures. Here's a 1962 Salada presentation set that was recently sold.

[cubman1941]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I probably should have been clearer in my original post. I believe there are more than 221 coins if you include the variations/errors. I was only explaining how the expansion teams and the updates got from 180 to the total of 221 the op was mentioning.

My checklist for the 1962 Salada includes 269 coins (with all the variations) which is 5 more than Keyman Collectibles. These are the 5 not in the Keyman Collectibles list:

• 64b Bobby Richardson (Black Disc)
• 64c Bobby Richardson (Red Disc)
• 64d Bobby Richardson (White Disc)
• 126b Joe Jay (Brown Sleeves)
• 192b John DeMerit (no glove)

This thread has some great info. https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=281441

If Whiteymet sees this thread, I'm sure he can provide more clarity.

I believe I have one more for your list - 207 Billy Williams was done in both red and blue disc's.

[JCRedbird]

Thanks. I had seen that thread which really prompted my question. Sources always refer to the 21 coins dropped and the 21 new coins added. Likewise there’s agreement that there are 221 different players in the checklist disregarding variations, team, changes, poses etc. But since players such as Zimmer who is on the Mets checklist in the 200-coin edition is not “new”since he is shown as a Cub in the 180-coin issue, so he doesn’t add to the different player count. In addition to Zimmer, 4 other Mets players are in the 180 set as are 2 of the Houston players. So 7 players represented on the 2 expansion teams are not “new” players. So…..to get to 221 different players seems like 28 “new” players (not including Mets or Colt45s) had to be added. At the end of the day, the checklist of 221 different players is straightforward but it would be interesting to know which 21 players were dropped when the second edition was produced.