Mantle Auction

[patone1313]

https://merchantmanauctions.hibid.co...mantle-rookie/

Is this Mantle real? Find it odd they don’t mention but when I messaged the auction house they said everything is authentic.

Thanks,

[G1911]

It's 100% fake. For one, the back is bright white. This isn't even a close fake that needs to be examined any further than that. Seller should be ashamed.

[swarmee]

Images are way too small for me to make a determination in the screwdown with heavy light reflecting off it, but buyer beware:

Auction Terms & Conditions * All items sold "AS IS, WHERE IS" with all faults.
* All descriptions believed accurate but not waranteed..
*Transactions over $1,000 a wire transfer, money order or check may be required.

I like the kluge of "warranted" and "guaranteed." ;-) Maybe you could get a refund because they can't spell. Really hard to return and item if the seller requires a wire transfer or check, and you've agreed to the item "As is, where is with all faults."

[irv]

And another newbie looking for information on a very expensive card.

Never makes sense to me, other than a possible scammer looking to see if his card is good enough to fool the experts.

Hate to say that is the case here as I, obviously, don't know the OP, but 99% of the time when these new members get the info they are seeking, they never come back.

[Casey2296]

I'm always suspect of auction houses and sellers of high end cards who don't take the time to buy a $225 scanner so they can present proper images or spend a few hundred to get a card like that graded and have it back in a fortnight.

[Arazi4442]

Quite an auction. Two ‘52 Mantles, Jordan rookie, a couple of Ruth’s, T206s. Something for all collectors.

[patone1313]

Originally Posted by irv

And another newbie looking for information on a very expensive card.

Never makes sense to me, other than a possible scammer looking to see if his card is good enough to fool the experts.

Hate to say that is the case here as I, obviously, don't know the OP, but 99% of the time when these new members get the info they are seeking, they never come back.

I am definitely a newbie and am looking actually to buy a Babe Ruth 1933 Goudey as well and appreciate the forum and everyone’s knowledge. I don’t claim to know much but I know if I am spending 20-30k asking some questions on this forum is a good thing to do. I am not selling this card and or the people selling so that’s why I was asking. I have no shame saying I am new to collecting baseball cards (I did when I was a kid). I collect other items just not cards.

Thanks,

[swarmee]

Welcome to the board; I didn't get a negative impression from your post, but there are scammers that will post on message boards to get better at making counterfeits. That's what some of the other regulars were worried about.

Please continue to ask questions, and do research. The search engine on this message board sucks, so most people will go to google and search "site:net54baseball.com" and then type in what they're looking for.

Looks like the auctionhouse is in Davie, FL. I live in Florida and if they're selling counterfeits as real, I can have the FDLE look into it. I did that a year ago with one of the trimmers that lived here; they forwarded their information to the FBI, but at least they were willing to listen. It's possible there are local members on this board (I know one who lives in the Boca Raton area) who may be able to go and take a look at the cards in person.

[irv]

Originally Posted by patone1313

I am definitely a newbie and am looking actually to buy a Babe Ruth 1933 Goudey as well and appreciate the forum and everyone’s knowledge. I don’t claim to know much but I know if I am spending 20-30k asking some questions on this forum is a good thing to do. I am not selling this card and or the people selling so that’s why I was asking. I have no shame saying I am new to collecting baseball cards (I did when I was a kid). I collect other items just not cards.

Thanks,

No offensive, Patone, but I hope you can understand what I am saying?
I've seen it time and time again where people, new members, come on board looking for advice to see if the cards they post are real or fakes, and if fake, why?

Numerous times, because most people are nice and want to help, inadvertently, give these new members (scammers/card doctors) all the info they need for them to further improve the looks of their cards so they can make them more real like.
This is one, but again, I don't know if that's the OP's intent, but it just screams fishy to me. Look at all the info, assuming he is a scammer/card doctor, that he has received in just a few short posts.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1436503

Again, no offense.

Good luck with your quest.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by patone1313

I am definitely a newbie and am looking actually to buy a Babe Ruth 1933 Goudey as well and appreciate the forum and everyone’s knowledge. I don’t claim to know much but I know if I am spending 20-30k asking some questions on this forum is a good thing to do. I am not selling this card and or the people selling so that’s why I was asking. I have no shame saying I am new to collecting baseball cards (I did when I was a kid). I collect other items just not cards.

Thanks,

Might I respectfully recommend that you start off with something a little less ambitious? Or if not, always, always buy a graded card in a third party slab (PSA, SGC, BVG). There are no shortcuts or bargains out there, just an endless supply of crooks trolling for people with money and no expertise. Anyone selling a raw marquee card that could be sold for a small fortune slabbed is 99.99999% certainly pulling a scam.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by patone1313

https://merchantmanauctions.hibid.co...mantle-rookie/

Is this Mantle real? Find it odd they don’t mention but when I messaged the auction house they said everything is authentic.

Thanks,

Today's counterfeits are so good, buying an extremely expensive card like that ungraded is just asking for trouble.