F/S 1969 Topps #567 Pirates Rookie Stars -Tough No Outline on Title variation

[RobertGT]

I have a 1969 Topps #567 Pirates Rookie Stars Jimenez/Shellenback No Outline on Title variation card. I know this card is tough (PSA has only graded 8 of them in any condition), but it's so tough that I can't find any pricing for it. Any experts out there have any idea? Obviously taking offers as well.

I would describe this card as NMMT OC. See scans.
Thanks,
Rob

[ejstel]

Hi it is a tough card and is the rarest of the white letters, congrats on the find. Are you looking to sell it trade it?

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[JollyElm]

Want to point out a couple of things.
In these days of card grading, just be careful, as the card appears to be miscut and is not a true rectangle. I drew a red box around the OP's pic to illustrate what jumps out at me. While the left/right sides seem pretty straight and parallel to each other, the top right side (especially) looks like it was clipped (starting above "RO" and slanting downward to the right). The bottom, although angled, seems to be straighter?? The card itself is obviously trapezoidal, and the lightness/fading could indicate it may have spent time in the sun?? Dunno. Measure it out and/or put it on top of a newer card you know to be the correct size, and see how it fits, determine how closely the dimensions match. Perhaps it's more or less an optical illusion?? Hard to say. Just my $.02...

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Here's one of mine (look at how much darker the colors are) that I never got graded due to a similar, but much more obvious, miscutting (is that even a word?) problem on the top right, starting in the area above the "S"...

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[RobertGT]

I am looking to sell the card at this point. I just can't seem to figure out what's a fair price. I am not looking to make a killing off the card and would be willing to work with someone who genuinely needs this card for a master set. Feel free to PM me with any offers and thanks.
Rob

Originally Posted by ejstel

Hi it is a tough card and is the rarest of the white letters, congrats on the find. Are you looking to sell it trade it?

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[RobertGT]

Thanks for your analysis. I believe this card does indeed have a diamond cut to it but would grade as OC likely. It hasn't been in the sun. It was just in a box of other 69s sitting there unnoticed for decades until someone helped me realize there is something different about it.

I attribute the faded look to the strange printing process that Topps used on this particular card that also accounts for the no outline. Perhaps not the proper percentage of a certain color? But who knows, that's just a guess.
Rob

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Want to point out a couple of things.
In these days of card grading, just be careful, as the card appears to be miscut and is not a true rectangle. I drew a red box around the OP's pic to illustrate what jumps out at me. While the left/right sides seem pretty straight and parallel to each other, the top right side (especially) looks like it was clipped (starting above "RO" and slanting downward to the right). The bottom, although angled, seems to be straighter?? The card itself is obviously trapezoidal, and the lightness/fading could indicate it may have spent time in the sun?? Dunno. Measure it out and/or put it on top of a newer card you know to be the correct size, and see how it fits, determine how closely the dimensions match. Perhaps it's more or less an optical illusion?? Hard to say. Just my $.02...

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Here's one of mine (look at how much darker the colors are) that I never got graded due to a similar, but much more obvious, miscutting (is that even a word?) problem on the top right, starting in the area above the "S"...

Attachment 382099