eBay Ratings - PWCC

[Edwolf1963]

Question - has anyone else noticed the option to give a star rating for shipping costs and/or communication on eBay to PWCC has been removed? On my most recent - they got an automatic 5 stars on each despite their new inflated shipping rates of late and not responding to questions.

Nobody else gets that .. that I am aware of (unless shipping was free)

$25 ship on 6 cards on most recent, then then they show up in a cheap, flimsy $7 USPS flat rate envelope.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Rank hath its privileges.

[bensie]

$25 for what six cards? I just bought a lot of over 20 cards, and my shipping was nowhere near $25.

[Edwolf1963]

Originally Posted by bensie

$25 for what six cards? I just bought a lot of over 20 cards, and my shipping was nowhere near $25.

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

[Promethius88]

I bought a card from them 3 days ago and I just clicked on the feedback option and it allows me to give them stars for everything including the shipping.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

I don't think those ratings matter anymore. Ebay bases discounts off of giving free return shipping, shipping on time and handling returns to their satisfaction.

[bobbyw8469]

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

[bounce]

I noticed the same thing.

$30 to ship me three cards, I think it saved me like $4-5 versus just paying for all of them individually. I was going to ding them a star or two for the increased cost, but it wasn't a choice.

This is second time I've been disappointed with their shipping costs. Other was for some mini-helmets I won which they charged like $30-40, something like that to send me three of them. They could have sent me a dozen for less than that.

Now they do a great job combining on smaller dollar stuff, when I used to win several graded commons for sets the combined shipping discount was pretty meaningful. Now it's all tied to the value of the auctions.

They're definitely charging more, there's is no disputing that. They upload the shipping info quickly after payment as well. However, a week to get three cards from Oregon to Texas with UPS? Color me skeptical.

[bounce]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

I don't think that's true at all.

First, eBay is a multi-billion dollar company. Even if they "lost" PWCC, it wouldn't change anything eBay does.

Second, where exactly would PWCC take their business? eBay is a brand pretty much everyone in the world is familiar with. PWCC is a brand only us collecting geeks know anything about.

[murphy8276]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I'm pretty sure that PWCC is so big that they can call the shots with Ebay. Do you really think Ebay wants to lose someone that is paying them 6 figures a month?

What is PWCC's alternative auction website though...? I agree ebay fees are outrageous, but PWCC likely needs ebay as much as they need him.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

Yeah .. $25 for the 6. I know it’s based off price and noted in their auction, but still ridiculously inflated IMO. Regardless, expected to be shipped in small box, not jammed in a flat rate envelope. 5 stars as I recall was for “very reasonable” feedback. Hardly the case here .. but again, that option has been removed.

You know what’s interesting to me is that as I recall you’ve always had the option to leave star ratings for PWCC .. until now .. and since the recent fat shipping change padding. Knowing that many would not be inclined to leave that 5 stars (regardless of whether or not they post it, logic would say few would find it “very reasonable”) and the likelihood that would drop them below a 4.8 - it seems that eBay just removed that option.

Indeed rank does have its privileges

In that case, you're probably paying for insurance. I don't see a problem with it, especially since they are upfront with shipping costs. Just price shipping into your bid. Simple.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Edwolf1963

$25 ship on 6 cards on most recent, then then they show up in a cheap, flimsy $7 USPS flat rate envelope.

That's nothing, Heritage got me $30 for a single $1300 exhibit in that same envelope.

SSuckow

[bobbyw8469]

I think if PWCC chose to NOT sell on Ebay and move their business to a catalog auction house like Hunt and Huggins & Scott, they would be just as successful.

[bensie]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I think if PWCC chose to NOT sell on Ebay and move their business to a catalog auction house like Hunt and Huggins & Scott, they would be just as successful.

I don't know...they move a LOT of product. I think that if they could make a viable business on their own, they'd have done so by now. Brent seems pretty savvy, so if there was a chance he could cut out the eBay commissions, he'd have done it. He pays eBay every month because he sees value in it. Personally, I don't think they'd make as much money on their own.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I think if PWCC chose to NOT sell on Ebay and move their business to a catalog auction house like Hunt and Huggins & Scott, they would be just as successful.

No question they have the following but I am not sure I see them doing as well outside of ebay. I think it could get more expensive and due to the sheer volume of product I think it would not move as efficiently especially if they went to a printed catalog.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I think if PWCC chose to NOT sell on Ebay and move their business to a catalog auction house like Hunt and Huggins & Scott, they would be just as successful.

The volume of material they sell, and the types of consignments they get for the most part, are not compatible with a catalog auction.

[NotVader]

Always Waiting in the bushes. Do you work, Peter?

Unreal.

Surviving the storm,

CV

[itslarry]

Given all the drama, I'm curious why anyone ever bids with them, it's almost as if they only want to bitch AFTER they've purchased what they want....

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by itslarry

Given all the drama, I'm curious why anyone ever bids with them, it's almost as if they only want to bitch AFTER they've purchased what they want....

Cuz just like Arby's PWCC has got the meats! I have not bought from them but seems to be the consensus that they are the only one running auctions on ebay for graded material and in massive quantities. And I don't buy from them for a lack of trying. I never win. Typically I can get the same thing they are selling cheaper, many times, out of an ebay store or if I am patient, from almost any other auction house. They seem to do exceptionally well for their consignors.