Top 10 Personally Collected Players who retired before WW2

[joshuanip]

Curious who others are collecting. And need help on if my list looks right and who are the last 2.

1) Babe Ruth
2) Ty Cobb (although I don’t have one)
3) Lou Gehrig
4) Walter Johnson
5) Christy Mathewson
6) Honus Wagner
7) Cy Young
8) Tris speaker (also working on getting one)
9) ?
10) ?

Of course I would add Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio but they played after WW2

[clydepepper]

I would add Jimmie Foxx and Hank Greenberg - or, if you prefer pitchers Grover Alexander and Lefty Grove.

Feller, Ted and DiMag all started before the war.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Lajoie and Chase.

[esd10]

Rogers Hornsby

[TUM301]

Joe Jackson would be on my list. Curious to see if the 100 year anniversary of the 1919 Series generates any added interest towards Joe or "Black Sox" related material in general. Interesting thread...............

[njdunkin1]

Lajoie and Joe Jackson for certain.

[oldjudge]

I would drop Speaker and add Hornsby, Lajoie and Jackson

[SteveMitchell]

Alexander (better than Matty due to team support and same number of victories) and Hornsby (best righthanded batter of all-time). Those would be my two picks. Steve

[T206Collector]

Lajoie and Grove

[rats60]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Curious who others are collecting. And need help on if my list looks right and who are the last 2.

1) Babe Ruth
2) Ty Cobb (although I don’t have one)
3) Lou Gehrig
4) Walter Johnson
5) Christy Mathewson
6) Honus Wagner
7) Cy Young
8) Tris speaker (also working on getting one)
9) ?
10) ?

Of course I would add Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio but they played after WW2

I would drop Speaker and add Shoeless Joe Jackson, Eddie Plank and Napoleon Lajoie.

[tiger8mush]

How about the same list, but non-HOF?
Dots
Hoy
Chase
Merkle
Phillippe
Gandil (black sox in general)
Donlin/Steinfeldt/Magee/Wiltse?

[sterlingfox]

HOF
1) Babe Ruth
2) Lou Gehrig
3) Ty Cobb
4) Napoleon LaJoie
5) Walter Johnson
6) Christy Mathewson
7) Cy Young
8) Honus Wagner
9) Rogers Hornsby
10) Eddie Plank

Non HOF
1) Shoeless Joe Jackson
2) Ed Cicotte
3) Moe Berg
4) Buck Weaver
5) Bill Dahlen
6) Hap Felsch
7) Ray Chapman
8) Smoky Joe Wood
9) Chick Gandil
10) Hal Chase

[Big Six]

Hal Chase needs to be on this list...


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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Big Six

Hal Chase needs to be on this list...

Exactly. I can't believe all the votes for Jackson. I think many misread the original question. It's not a "Who's the Best Player" thread, it's a "Which Player is the Most Collected" thread. And I would bet that Chase is way more collected than Jackson.

[joshuanip]

There was an interview Ruth did about who he pitched and who he thought was easy and hard. He said Ty Cobb was easy to pitch to, even though he called him the greatest hitter he ever pitched to. But he said Joe Jackson was really hard to pitch to and Joe would always hit well against him.

That said, still can't collect Shoeless.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Exactly. I can't believe all the votes for Jackson. I think many misread the original question. It's not a "Who's the Best Player" thread, it's a "Which Player is the Most Collected" thread. And I would bet that Chase is way more collected than Jackson.

If Jackson isn't so collected, why are his cards so expensive? Ever since I started collecting prewar cards in the early 80s, he has been a top 5 in demand (Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Gehrig and Jackson). Chase? I wouldn't even put him in the top 25. Pretty much every Hofer is in more demand than him.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by rats60

If Jackson isn't so collected, why are his cards so expensive? Ever since I started collecting prewar cards in the early 80s, he has been a top 5 in demand (Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Gehrig and Jackson). Chase? I wouldn't even put him in the top 25. Pretty much every Hofer is in more demand than him.

How about posting some scans of your Jackson's?

[glchen]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

How about posting some scans of your Jackson's?

I interpret the question as whose cards for which players are on most collectors want lists? I don't have any Joe Jax either because they are very expensive. However, I would much rather have a Jackson card than a Chase card if both of them were the same price.

[Big Six]

I think the point is being missed here...there have to be more folks collecting Chase than Jackson for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with who was the better player (for the record, Jackson is the better player). Who can reasonably collect Jackson? Career contemporary cards of Jackson are a fraction of what is available for Chase. Those that are available are expensive to a fault as well as considerably more rare than Chase...or just about anyone else up for consideration in this topic. Chase has every bit as interesting story as Jackson, is also someone who has HOF credentials, was as popular as any of his peers and, I would argue, he would be an even greater cult player if he had a movie made about him like Jackson did. How many folks here collect Jackson? How many Chase? One Jackson in your collection doesn’t make it a player collection. I have 21 different Chase cards in my collection and it likely ranks as one of the weakest Chase collections on this board. Chase makes the top 10 in my mind...


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[ullmandds]

a lot of people collect donlin too!!!

[ullmandds]

[QUOTE=Big Six;1749271]I think the point is being missed here...there have to be more folks collecting Chase than Jackson for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with who was the better player (for the record, Jackson is the better player). Who can reasonably collect Jackson? Career contemporary cards of Jackson are a fraction of what is available for Chase. Those that are available are expensive to a fault as well as considerably more rare than Chase...or just about anyone else up for consideration in this topic. Chase has every bit as interesting story as Jackson, is also someone who has HOF credentials, was as popular as any of his peers and, I would argue, he would be an even greater cult player if he had a movie made about him like Jackson did. How many folks here collect Jackson? How many Chase? One Jackson in your collection doesn’t make it a player collection. I have 21 different Chase cards in my collection and it likely ranks as one of the weakest Chase collections on this board. Chase makes the top 10 in my mind...

Good points...I agree! I don't think I own any chases????

[Big Six]

[QUOTE=ullmandds;1749274]

Originally Posted by Big Six

I think the point is being missed here...there have to be more folks collecting Chase than Jackson for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with who was the better player (for the record, Jackson is the better player). Who can reasonably collect Jackson? Career contemporary cards of Jackson are a fraction of what is available for Chase. Those that are available are expensive to a fault as well as considerably more rare than Chase...or just about anyone else up for consideration in this topic. Chase has every bit as interesting story as Jackson, is also someone who has HOF credentials, was as popular as any of his peers and, I would argue, he would be an even greater cult player if he had a movie made about him like Jackson did. How many folks here collect Jackson? How many Chase? One Jackson in your collection doesn’t make it a player collection. I have 21 different Chase cards in my collection and it likely ranks as one of the weakest Chase collections on this board. Chase makes the top 10 in my mind...



Good points...I agree! I don't think I own any chases????

They are readily available on eBay, the BST...buy a couple and you can join in on the fun, too!


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[BearBailey]

Hornsby and Foxx.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by joshuanip

Curious who others are collecting. And need help on if my list looks right and who are the last 2.

1) Babe Ruth
2) Ty Cobb (although I don’t have one)
3) Lou Gehrig
4) Walter Johnson
5) Christy Mathewson
6) Honus Wagner
7) Cy Young
8) Tris speaker (also working on getting one)
9) ?
10) ?

Of course I would add Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio but they played after WW2

As to who to add to the list, some good players already mentioned, I can't think of any better.

As for the question of "who others are collecting"
I like/collect Ruth, Cobb, Young and rare type cards , only not to the extent as before. Eventually I will end up with a really nice Ruth Goudey #144 (have sold a few really nice ones but want one a little better) but probably not an 8, my pocketbook is more 5-6 range. Will upgrade my T205 Cobby from the nice 4.5 I have. And I have the E90-1 Young spot filled. From the population of graded ones it is fine
My 3 faves....maybe in that order.

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[Bpm0014]

Joe Jackson and Hal Chase

[realbigfatdog]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

Joe Jackson and Hal Chase

Hey there! I also collect Chase. If you have anything you'd like to sell/trade, let me know! Nice to see another collector of Prince Hal.

Mike

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[realbigfatdog]

Hal Chase

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