Complete Clemente -- What's missing?

[geosluggo]

I'm trying to acquire every Roberto Clemente card, coin and stamp from when he was a player. I'm up to 71 items now. I don't have any of his Bazooka cards (man, they are expensive!) or the rare 1967 Topps stickers or the 1962 Canadian Post cereal card that's in English and French. What else am I missing?

[jason.1969]

Originally Posted by geosluggo

I'm trying to acquire every Roberto Clemente card, coin and stamp from when he was a player. I'm up to 71 items now. I don't have any of his Bazooka cards (man, they are expensive!) or the rare 1967 Topps stickers or the 1962 Canadian Post cereal card that's in English and French. What else am I missing?

First off, beautiful collection!! Second, have you checked here?

https://www.psacard.com/psasetregist...aster-set/1618

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[ALR-bishop]

Howard is our resident Clemente master collector. I just did Topps, Bowman and Fleer.

For Fleer his extension Fleer World Series 1971 card is a little tough.

For Topps his 68 3D card is tough to find and expensive. Same for his 67 and 68 Discs, and his 68 Plaq and image on the Plaq checklist. I think Howard also has the rare 67 Pin Up that was a prototype to the issued version. The 67 Stand Up is very tough and expensive as well

Less tough are the 69 Topps Pirates Team Poster and the Topps 1968 Action Sticker Clemente. You mentioned the 67 Pirates Stickers.

But Howard is the guy you need to chime in on this. If you are sticking to cards or items actually issued at retail as opposed to unissued or limited distribution test issues, it is a little easier.

[geosluggo]

Thanks for the feedback, Jason and Al! I quickly realized I'm only scratching the surface.

I'm not quite sure where to draw the line between cards and postcards/photos. And there's the whole poster issue. I do have the 1967 Dexter Press 5x7 photo/card and the 1971 Arco 8x10 photo and will probably eventually go down that road...

[David W]

I am doing the same thing with Lou Brock just do a daily eBay search for Clemente in sports cards and memorabilia and you will be amazed at what you find

[geosluggo]

Originally Posted by David W

I am doing the same thing with Lou Brock just do a daily eBay search for Clemente in sports cards and memorabilia and you will be amazed at what you find

Happy hunting on the Brock stuff! Not sure how true this is with Brock, but with Clemente on eBay you run into a ton of reprints and tribute cards that I’m not interested in. (I was for awhile and amassed about 200 posthumous Clemente cards before deciding it was too much to keep up with.) I met Brock once a couple years after he retired and he seemed like a really decent guy.

[steve B]

There's the various coke caps, and the saver sheets.

And a set that's really similar to the east hills set but with no mall ad Maybe a picture pack thing?

[kvnkvnkvn]

TradingCardDB.com is great at breaking down player lists...Just search Clemente on the site...

[swarmee]

O-Pee-Chees as well. But those should be on the PSA list.

[Exhibitman]

Kahn's, Team Issues, JD McCarthy PCs.

[skil55voy]

62 and 63 Jell-o. Also, if you are doing current cards, he is on the some of the Topps Heritage cards. Then and Now etc...

[geosluggo]

Thanks for everyone's input. Spent a good portion of the day poring over the PSA registry suggested by Jason. I'm not optimistic about acquiring the 1963 I.D.L. Drug Store card -- there's one for $900 and one for $1,199 on eBay right now -- but it's good to know what's out there.

[David W]

Originally Posted by geosluggo

Happy hunting on the Brock stuff! Not sure how true this is with Brock, but with Clemente on eBay you run into a ton of reprints and tribute cards that I’m not interested in. (I was for awhile and amassed about 200 posthumous Clemente cards before deciding it was too much to keep up with.) I met Brock once a couple years after he retired and he seemed like a really decent guy.

Check out the year of Lou Brock thread I have about 300 or more unique items I'm sure Clemente is close to that

[rats60]

My favorites are the Sugardale and the Topps test issues (standup, disc, plaq and punchout). The 1958 Kahns is extremely tough to find.

[mrmantlecollector]

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by rats60

My favorites are the Sugardale and the Topps test issues (standup, disc, plaq and punchout). The 1958 Kahns is extremely tough to find.

There are two variations of his captain cards in the 67 Punch outs. There are line up variations for all captains but the only photo variations I am aware of are for Clemente, Mantle, M Alou and F Robinsom

[quitcrab]

1968 topps action sticker panel and full Bazooka stamp panel from 64

[Empty77]

well what grade range are you after? those IDL's you listed are pretty high-end but there must be a couple dozen lower-end ones that come around from time to time. just have to be patient. Besides, your pic was all raw material, right?

(answer to your original question forthcoming, as I notice 2 coins to add to your list, among the other items that have been mentioned)

[Empty77]

what I notice to add:
-coins: (1)whichever coin is on the second row is either the '62 Salada (probably) or '62 Shirriff, which you can only tell from the back, so you could add the other one; (2) the '72 Esso Latin coin is pretty scarce, but I believe the two of those would give you a complete coin subset (if you don't count that the '62 Salada's was issued with 2 different backs, one mentioning set size of "180" and the other "200")

-stamps: didn't see the '64 Wheaties

-cards: others mentioned the pretty rare stuff and test issues etc. so I'll avoid repeating, but the one I didn't notice in your pic that should be comparatively easy to come by is the '69 Topps Super (year that's not large like the '70&'71)

[geosluggo]

Originally Posted by Empty77

what I notice to add:
-coins: (1)whichever coin is on the second row is either the '62 Salada (probably) or '62 Shirriff, which you can only tell from the back, so you could add the other one; (2) the '72 Esso Latin coin is pretty scarce, but I believe the two of those would give you a complete coin subset (if you don't count that the '62 Salada's was issued with 2 different backs, one mentioning set size of "180" and the other "200")

-stamps: didn't see the '64 Wheaties

-cards: others mentioned the pretty rare stuff and test issues etc. so I'll avoid repeating, but the one I didn't notice in your pic that should be comparatively easy to come by is the '69 Topps Super (year that's not large like the '70&'71)

Thanks -- I've got the '62 Salada "200" variation, not the Shirriff. I'm always on the lookout for a reasonably priced Esso coin or '69 Topps super. (I always thought the '69 supers were a test issue or at least not very widely distributed. I don't come across them very often.) As for your earlier question, I'm not a condition fanatic. Most of my stuff is in decent shape but I don't care for graded cards.

[steve B]

Saladas actually have three backs, but the third one is as far as I know only found with Red Sox players.

Be glad for that, as they're very difficult.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by Empty77

what I notice to add:
-coins: (1)whichever coin is on the second row is either the '62 Salada (probably) or '62 Shirriff, which you can only tell from the back, so you could add the other one; (2) the '72 Esso Latin coin is pretty scarce, but I believe the two of those would give you a complete coin subset (if you don't count that the '62 Salada's was issued with 2 different backs, one mentioning set size of "180" and the other "200")

How can you tell the difference on the Salada variations; does it list “180” or “200” on the backs? Just checking for my collection as well.

[steve B]

Yes, it's stated on the back and the back is also different, so they're easy to spot.

The third back is a clip back.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...carl-129099299

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by steve B

Yes, it's stated on the back and the back is also different, so they're easy to spot.

The third back is a clip back.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...carl-129099299

Thanks Steve!

[Empty77]

Originally Posted by Mark70Z

How can you tell the difference on the Salada variations; does it list “180” or “200” on the backs? Just checking for my collection as well.

yes, the one says "SAVE 180 BASEBALL COINS" curving along the top and the other says "SAVE AND TRADE 200 BASEBALL COINS" in the same area. Like the other poster was getting at, the font and layout of the rest of the back is also different where it mentions the food brands Salada Tea and Junket Desserts. If you search ebay for a while and and focus on the back images you're bound to come across some of each. I've never heard that anyone has discovered that either variation is more or less prevalent than the other. And PSA for instance doesn't consider it any sort of official variation worth annotating nor in my personal buying have I noticed that there is a difference in how buyers/sellers value them.

I did not know about the clip back tied to the particular team set.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Not sure if I missed it in this ever growing list, but there are the two versions of the 58 Topps card, a version with the YL team name and one with the WL team name.

[hcv123]

1957-1966 Kahns weiners
1960-1971 Bazooka (singles, panels and or boxes)
1956-1972 Team issues (many different)
1959-1966 Jay publishing photos
1965 Macgregor advisory staff
2 different 1971 Rawlings advisory staff
1962-1963 exhibit cards
196? Grenier tires
1964? Sweet clean laundry
1960 Horne's department store
1960 Harmony milk
1965-1973 O PEE Chee
1962,1964, 1966, 1967, 1968 Venezuelan cards
1969, 1970, 1972 Milton Bradley
1969 Topps Stamps - 3 panel variations
1968 Action all star panels - 2 different
1972 Puerto Rico stamp issue
1972 Pro star postcard
1967 dexter press - all star and team variants
1968 Atlantic oil - 2 different backs
1968? KDKA
1972 Harmony milk fan club card
1972 daily juice fan club card
1967-1968 Bottle caps (many soda variants - coke, king size coke, sprite, fresca, tab, fanta grape, fanta orange, fanta root beer)
1968 marble
1970 superball (2 different)
I'm sure there are more ( some of which previously mentioned, I haven't repeated) - but that's what I've got off the top of my head. Of course there are many other potential sub collections like: store model bats, store model gloves, large format items including posters, advertising and team issues. newspapers, magazines..............

[MCoxon]

Apologies if repeated:

1962 Post Canadian
1968 Dexter Press (his best card in my opinion)
1969 Greiner Tire. SGC grades these, PSA does not
1969 Transogram (panel, box)
1970 Transogram
1973 Allied Printing Company Memorial Postcard

[71buc]

You gotta add some memorabilia to that collection.

[JLange]

That's quite an assembly of Clemente cards!

Here's a link to the trading card database Clemente gallery of cards, showing many of the items already referenced in the posts above. Good luck with your player collection!

https://tinyurl.com/ycd2u8pd