Do you guys think this 3000 hit ticket is real?

[pherbener]

I just bought this ticket on ebay. It all adds up, he says he was at the game. I researched his info and he's 63 years old and lives near Pittsburgh., He sent it insured etc. I'm going to send it to psa for grading but at 45 business day turnaround will ebay still cover it if it proves fake?

Clemente 3000 hit ticket by Paul Herbener, on Flickr

Clemente 3000 hit ticket by Paul Herbener, on Flickr

[Shoeless Moe]

I saw that auction, in the description he wrote a fan wrote on the back, then in the questions answered section he wrote that he attended the game.

That was a bit of a red flag for me, but I'd think you would know once you have it in hand, usually fakes are fairly easy to spot, unless they are getting better these days.

[pherbener]

Paul, I'm just not sure. I collect mostly older tickets and have only done tickets recently. I'm pretty good with cards but not tickets. I'm concerned with the different shades of colors on the ticket and also now that you've said it, I realize he says a fan marked the back and then when answering questions he said he attended the game...

[jimjim]

I saw that auction too. I messaged him a few questions and he never responded. When sellers do not respond, I move on. Red flag for me. Also, for the condition of that ticket, the price seemed rather high. Just my two cents. Hope it is real!

[pherbener]

Thanks Matt. He did answer some questions but we'll see. I'm thinking about returning it. as far as price though, it's getting tough to find this ticket in any grade for under $1000

[Scott Garner]

From the photo, this Clemente 3,000th hit ticket does appear to be real.
I have seen several of these through the years. Red was one of their ticket stock colors.
If the cardboard in the exposed areas (chipped edge where no red is) appears old I believe you are safe.
Just my 2 cents.
By the way, if you are sending it to PSA, have it only slabbed as authentic. If you get it graded with a numerical grade, you will receive a 1 at best because of condition which will make it a challenge to resell down the line IMHO.
Scott

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by pherbener

I just bought this ticket on ebay. It all adds up, he says he was at the game. I researched his info and he's 63 years old and lives near Pittsburgh., He sent it insured etc. I'm going to send it to psa for grading but at 45 business day turnaround will ebay still cover it if it proves fake?

Clemente 3000 hit ticket by Paul Herbener, on Flickr

Clemente 3000 hit ticket by Paul Herbener, on Flickr

Paul
Clemente 3000 Hit ticket
FYI the ticket is 100% Genuine, the admission price is high
because of location of seat, the taxes are also right , as is the stock color is RED which is line with the higher seat pricing , the chipping on the edges also shows it is on a thicker cardboard stock
so from my prospective Ticket is 100% legit
I can give you all the info you need regarding PSA submissions
I am a Ticket consultant for PSA , and can guide you for your best options for submissions
email me for details
nice pick up

[Dewey2007]

The ticket looks good but I have four Pirates tix from 1972 from the Field Box, First Level seating that were priced at $4.15 too. I'm not familiar with all of the Pirates pricing that season but would two tickets in different areas of the stadium be the same exact price? Another thing I found interesting is the way the ticket is torn at the bottom compared to the ones I have. To get a straight tear right under that wording would be very difficult from what I can see. As you can see the wording - NO MONEY REFUNDED - is directly under that pretty close together. Not saying it's impossible but the tear looks too straight to me. I wonder if there's a chance this ticket could have been trimmed?

Here's a link to a couple of other Clemente 3000 hit stub examples that are on another website for what it's worth:
http://chicagotix.com/Baseball.shtml

[pherbener]

Thanks for the info and link Dewey!

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Dewey2007

The ticket looks good but I have four Pirates tix from 1972 from the Field Box, First Level seating that were priced at $4.15 too. I'm not familiar with all of the Pirates pricing that season but would two tickets in different areas of the stadium be the same exact price? Another thing I found interesting is the way the ticket is torn at the bottom compared to the ones I have. To get a straight tear right under that wording would be very difficult from what I can see. As you can see the wording - NO MONEY REFUNDED - is directly under that pretty close together. Not saying it's impossible but the tear looks too straight to me. I wonder if there's a chance this ticket could have been trimmed?

Here's a link to a couple of other Clemente 3000 hit stub examples that are on another website for what it's worth:
http://chicagotix.com/Baseball.shtml

Dewey , straight off the bat I respect your assessment and concern on this ticket and have done business with you and would like to continue doing so ,
for me
the ticket stub tear being even is not unusual to find , I have seen many examples of Tickets where the line is perfectly straight ,
looking on ebay right now there are literally hundreds of clean and straight edge ticket stubs on them ,it is quite possible the ticket excess may have been removed or just torn carefully at the turnstile , also having a trimmed edge on a ticket is only a factor if it is slabbed and a grade is required , if it is Authentic Only , no condition reference is mentioned includes any writing or paper loss , Printing of tickets in the 1970's and earlier was a Letterpress production , that printing process would be hard to replicate with out that now out dated printing method that requires certain types of out dated hard to find equipment , let alone trying to find the pre colored old cover stock to print on , This ticket will not win any best in show
in my opinion I have no doubt its real , and I would pay what ever it was sold for on ebay with out hesitation

[Dewey2007]

David, I agree with you completely. I am not doubting the tickets authenticity. I was just comparing it to the tear on all my 1972 stubs, especially where the tear is located. As long as the buyer is happy with it that all that matters. Regardless, it's a sweet ticket stub!

Originally Posted by megalimey

Dewey , straight off the bat I respect your assessment and concern on this ticket and have done business with you and would like to continue doing so ,
for me
the ticket stub tear being even is not unusual to find , I have seen many examples of Tickets where the line is perfectly straight ,
looking on ebay right now there are literally hundreds of clean and straight edge ticket stubs on them ,it is quite possible the ticket excess may have been removed or just torn carefully at the turnstile , also having a trimmed edge on a ticket is only a factor if it is slabbed and a grade is required , if it is Authentic Only , no condition reference is mentioned includes any writing or paper loss , Printing of tickets in the 1970's and earlier was a Letterpress production , that printing process would be hard to replicate with out that now out dated printing method that requires certain types of out dated hard to find equipment , let alone trying to find the pre colored old cover stock to print on , This ticket will not win any best in show
in my opinion I have no doubt its real , and I would pay what ever it was sold for on ebay with out hesitation

[TUM301]

Paul very nice ticket, great addition to your already outstanding collection. Enjoy this item for years to come.

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by megalimey

it is quite possible the ticket excess may have been removed or just torn carefully at the turnstile

Before the Mets started to use barcodes and scan tickets, I would pre-fold my tickets back and forth a number of times before presenting it to the ticket-taker, to ensure a perfect tear.

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

Before the Mets started to use barcodes and scan tickets, I would pre-fold my tickets back and forth a number of times before presenting it to the ticket-taker, to ensure a perfect tear.

Haha! I used to do the same thing.

[Grammont]

nice pickup!