T205 Bresnahan Autograph. Updated!! Deans Cards😞

[T205 GB]

A T205 with Roger Bresnahan's Auto down the right side. Problem is it is raw and not authenticated by anyone other than the seller. Can I get some feedback on what you guys think of the card before a trigger is pulled on buying it.


The auction has been corrected. I'm going to just leave this here so you can draw your own opinions on the correction now.

This card has been in our possession for about eight years. We acquired it from an individual, and it was in an old frame, with a faded background. This card was part of a bigger vintage card collection, that contained very few autographs. We did not really pay much for it, so it did not make sense to me why someone would fake this autograph.

At the time, I considered it genuine, and still believe that it is probably is authentic, but it was sent to JSA several years ago, and they would not authenticate it. No reason was given, but I have since learned that the signature is in ballpoint pen - which is a concern. The Ballpoint pen was introduced in 1938, but did not become popular until after WWII. Bresnahan died in 1944.

[btcarfagno]

You might do better posting this over on the autograph side.

Tom C

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

hard to tell, but man that ink looks very uniform and not "live" possibly a stamp.

[Gradedcardman]

I posed the question to the seller as to why they would not accept a return if it came back not authentic. I have not heard anything back yet but expect I will. Their mantra is to "help people enjoy the hobby" if that's the case then back the raw autograph and guarantee it.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Look where letters cross over each other. The ink should be twice as dark in those spots, or at least noticeably different. Also it doesn't look like fountain pen. I don't know when breshnahan died and I'm too lazy to look it up, but what kind of pen would make such a smooth signature? certainly nothing before the advent of pall point pens, if even that could do it.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

OK, so I got curious and looked it up. Roger died in 1944. Modern ball point pens were almost entirely unheard of in the US until after WWII. So what does he purport that signature is signed in???

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

but I have since learned that the signature is in ballpoint pen - which is a concern. The Ballpoint pen was introduced in 1938, but did not become popular until after WWII. Bresnahan died in 1944.[/B]

hmmm, does he read the boards? He's practically quoting me.