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Old 04-05-2016, 02:00 PM
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Default 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson RC PSA 10 or BGS 9.5/10 card for review.

Hello everyone.

1980 Topps Rickey Henderson RC PSA 10 or BGS 9.5/10 card for review.

Wanted to get feedback on this card to know if I have a chance for either PSA 10 or BGS 9.5/10?

This is a very sharp card, but I just am unsure which one gives me a better chance. I have submitted many cards to PSA but never BGS and plan to sell shall I hit the goldmine. PSA has killed me with Minsizerq on cards that measure out including a few sharp examples such as this so I need to know if I am wasting my time submitting repeatedly or is this the typical way they punish you on a way towards a 10? lol

Using PSA as an example--When you have a card like this, do you submit at the $500 max level ($18 fee) and let them contact you to pay the $700 shall it hit the PSA 10 mark or do they expect you to pay up front to get the grade?


If it is only a PSA 9 I will probably keep it because my personal opinion is it has eye appeal stronger than that.



Thanks for the help.



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Old 04-05-2016, 02:11 PM
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Awesome card but I would say that centering is off R-L if you got out the ruler.
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Old 04-05-2016, 03:03 PM
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Awesome card but I would say that centering is off R-L if you got out the ruler.
If anything at all it was tilted so slightly because the camera angle was not straight. It is pretty close to 50-50 left to right in the center with measuring. Desktop ruler shows 47.5-52.5 at worst part of card.

Anything else holding it back and that is within the threshold of PSA 10 right? (not sure of BGS though)


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Old 04-05-2016, 03:05 PM
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look like a 10 to me looks like a very nice card, would not be shocked if they put an 8 on it though. Could 9 one corner just appears a tad touched so i say no 10.

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Old 04-05-2016, 03:22 PM
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look like a 10 to me looks like a very nice card, would not be shocked if they put an 8 on it though. Could 9 one corner just appears a tad touched so i say no 10.
Which corner are you referring to out of curiosity so I can take a look at it? I know I saw a 9.5 with a pretty bad corner hit for a 9.5 IMO so I pulled up the ebay auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-R...YAAOSwvgdW2Mrj



I am not saying they would grade another that way, but definitely I have no corners like that.

Thank you for the feedback so far guys.

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Old 04-05-2016, 03:27 PM
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I'm seeing just a touch of something on the top left corner on the back of the card. Seems like I'm seeing a touch of white there against the blue but it could just be a trick of the light since there is some glare there on the picture. Hard to tell for sure without being able to hold it. Definitely a very sharp card though.

I definitely think it could hit a BGS 9.5 would be crazy awesome if you scored a BGS 10 on it.
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Which corner are you referring to out of curiosity so I can take a look at it? I know I saw a 9.5 with a pretty bad corner hit for a 9.5 IMO so I pulled up the ebay auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-R...YAAOSwvgdW2Mrj



I am not saying they would grade another that way, but definitely I have no corners like that.

Thank you for the feedback so far guys.
Does the holder look frosted to anyone else? Maybe Mexico?
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Old 04-05-2016, 03:39 PM
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It is really hard to judge the Henderson from the photo. I use a loupe to check the corners of my cards and have pretty good success in selecting 10's. I have even better success eliminating the 8's and 9's before I blow the grading fee. You able to eliminate cards that look like a 10, but under the loupe have some issues. You can get a 30 x 21MM Jewelers Loupe on ebay for $6.50 to $6.75 with free shipping. The cost of one PSA sub.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:43 PM
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It is really hard to judge the Henderson from the photo. I use a loupe to check the corners of my cards and have pretty good success in selecting 10's. I have even better success eliminating the 8's and 9's before I blow the grading fee. You able to eliminate cards that look like a 10, but under the loupe have some issues. You can get a 30 x 21MM Jewelers Loupe on ebay for $6.50 to $6.75 with free shipping. The cost of one PSA sub.
I've been using a 10 x loupe from Bausch & Lomb. Looking at the 30 x 21MM on Ebay, and the same as listed on Amazon, a lot of posters are saying these provide nowhere near 30 x magnification. Which one are you using, and are you absolutely certain it's 30 x?
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It's a really nice card you have. I took it to Photoshop, and it's definitely within the parameters for a 10 grade on centering side to side.

You have to look at the population report. 14,489 '80 Topps Hendersons have been graded, by PSA, and only fifteen have been given a 10.

For me, BGS is my go to for modern. PSA for vintage, an SGC for pre-war. 1980 is right on the line for vintage/modern, but I still consider the '80 set vintage. Topps was still the only game in town. I personally view 1981 as the start of the modern era.

Good luck with the submission. That really is a beauty.
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