Ruth vs Wagner

[EvilKing00]

I know this news is almost a year old, but I hadn't seen it on here and not sure this was posted before, but I just came across this now. So I figured id post it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-card-slugfest

IMO, I always couldn't understand why the wagner was a higher selling card. Ruth was a better player and its more rare. I guess maybe that's exactly why. Because the ruth rarely comes up for sale. I don't know. But if I had the means and choice id pick the ruth over the wagner any day.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

IMO, I always couldn't understand why the wagner was a higher selling card

The Wagner has had a mystique for 100 years and is part of arguably the most iconic set of all-time. If T206 isn't the most iconic set of all-time, it is certainly no worse than second or third. The Wagner card also has the much debated story of why it exists in such few numbers compared to the 520 easily accessible cards in the set, and even Jefferson Burdick recognized that the Wagner T206 was the most the special card in an iconic set.

Conversely, the Baltimore News Ruth card, while Babe's first card, is from an obscure set that has only picked up steam in relatively recent times. How many threads do you see on here discussing the T-206 set? How many threads do you see on here discussing the Baltimore News set?

Given a choice, I would rather have a Wagner T206 because there is a certain panache with that card. Books have been written on that card; television programs have been made dealing solely with a Wagner T206. You don't have any of that with the Baltimore News Ruth card. Even people who know absolutely nothing about card collecting have some familiarity with a Honus Wagner T206 card.

[e107collector]

Based on the Banner advertisement for Goldin Auctions, it looks like they are having a PSA1 BN Ruth coming up for auction, for the Centennial Ruth event.

It will be interesting to see what it sells for.

Tony

[MattyC]

Let me begin by saying that both ladies are beautiful, and I'd be proud to own either. That said, Ruth is the greatest player ever and it's his first appearance, a rarity, and I would choose the Ruth.

I very respectfully disagree with the notion of wanting a Wagner because books or movies have been made about it-- that is just a function of current knowledge and popularity. And that is all subject to change, over time. I mean, heck, remember the geocentric theory of the solar system? Or leeches in medicine? The list goes on.

Precedent and tradition are legitimate factors, to be sure, but who's to say that, in years from now, the Balt News Ruth won't be held in higher regard? By some it already is.

Heck, look at how the hobby finally embraced the Ruth RC, the undisputed MLB RC of the game's greatest player. Sometimes we humans just need a bit of time to acquire the proper knowledge, perspective, and get it right

And once again, this is not to knock the T206 Wagner. Amazing card. Would love to own one. Appreciate it on many levels. But this is baseball and all roads lead to Babe Ruth.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Let me begin by saying that both ladies are beautiful, and I'd be proud to own either. That said, Ruth is the greatest player ever and it's his first appearance, a rarity, and I would choose the Ruth.

I very respectfully disagree with the notion of wanting a Wagner because books or movies have been made about it-- that is just a function of current knowledge and popularity. And that is all subject to change, over time. I mean, heck, remember the geocentric theory of the solar system? Or leeches in medicine? The list goes on.

Precedent and tradition are legitimate factors, to be sure, but who's to say that, in years from now, the Balt News Ruth won't be held in higher regard? By some it already is.

Heck, look at how the hobby finally embraced the Ruth RC, the undisputed MLB RC of the game's greatest player. Sometimes we humans just need a bit of time to acquire the proper knowledge, perspective, and get it right

And once again, this is not to knock the T206 Wagner. Amazing card. Would love to own one. Appreciate it on many levels. But this is baseball and all roads lead to Babe Ruth.

Couldn't of said it better, totally agree.

Sometimes we humans just need a bit of time to acquire the proper knowledge, perspective, and get it right .

lmao - I was never a big fan of humans, lol I tell my wife that all the time

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

I think the Ruth card is cooler because it comes from such an obscure set.


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[mrvster]

hands down Wagner(altho Ruth is bad ass).....

wagner= the grail

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by mrvster

wagner= the grail

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[E93]

Of course I would love to own a BN Ruth, but to my mind there is not even a question about what is the premier card in the hobby - the T206 Wagner is the iconic card in the hobby.
JimB

[Brian Van Horn]

Wagner.