T205 Print? Oddity

[T205Guy]

Hey,

I just picked this card up off Ebay and thought I would share and garner some opinons... It appears that a "gold border" might have been printed on the reverse side of the card. I initially thought that it might be pen or crayon but upon close inspection it appears to have been printed on the card. The border lines are straight (not hand drawn) and the spacing seems correct (comparing the distance between the gold borders on the front). Perhaps the printer placed the "sheet" face down when applying the gold border, then after realizing the mistake flipped it over and finished printing the gold border on the front. If that is what happened then I would expect there to be other copies from that sheet in circualtion. Has anyone ever seen another? Please let me know...

Thanks,

Ed

[EvilKing00]

very interesting , cant wait till some of the t205 experts post, love to see what they have to say

[T205 GB]

Is it gold or the yellow base? Typically the boarders have a yellow base then the gold laid over.

[T205Guy]

Originally Posted by T205 GB

Is it gold or the yellow base? Typically the boarders have a yellow base then the gold laid over.

Andrew,

Up close it looks more greenish than yellow but after 102 years colors can change or fade so I am not completely sure...

Ed

[Ronnie73]

Is there a chance that another T205 was under that card for many years and trasfered the gold border? The gold ink has been known to oxidize and maybe it soaked into the card back you have. It could of been just the right amount of time, temp, and moisture that might have caused it over time to transfer into the paper. I'm not talking about your card front border transfering to the back but another cards border.

[Ease]

Cool card Ed. Thanx for posting. I'm inclined to go with Ron's theory.

[T205Guy]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Is there a chance that another T205 was under that card for many years and trasfered the gold border? The gold ink has been known to oxidize and maybe it soaked into the card back you have. It could of been just the right amount of time, temp, and moisture that might have caused it over time to transfer into the paper. I'm not talking about your card front border transfering to the back but another cards border.

Ron,

That's a very interesting and plausible idea. The fact that this is a "Polar Bear" back might lend credence to this theory. The "tobacco product" might have acted like glue between two cards. Although there is a good sized stain in the upper left corner the back is very smooth and there is currently no "sticky" product on the card. So I am still unsure as to the origin...

Ed

[atx840]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

.Maybe it was offset printing where a plate image transfers to a blanket cylinder and then onto the paper. If the paper is not fed, the blanket image will transfer to the impression cylinder. If that happens, a reversed image would print on the back side of the paper the same time the image is printed on the front. Normally the impression cylinder would be cleaned if a misfeed happened before feeding another sheet in to avoid the error reverse printing. This is most likely the reason for how detailed some wet sheet transfers are. Its because Tim's card is actually an impression cylinder transfer and not a wet sheet transfer.

Great post. This is my theory on the T206 back ghosts. Like Tim's card they are way too detailed for a stack transfer.

[Ronnie73]

Originally Posted by atx840

Great post. This is my theory on the T206 back ghosts. Like Tim's card they are way too detailed for a stack transfer.

Your right Chris. Your ghost image cards are actually impression cylinder transfers which are much more rare than a wet sheet transfer of any kind. This is why i said no extra value on wet sheet transfers on the WST poll.

[atx840]

So at one point the T206 ghosts were on before the ad back was printed. Likely slipped through quality control.

Sure glad they did