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Old 06-21-2012, 06:20 PM
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Default '89 Fleer Ripken F-Face

Thanks Leon for the new sub-board. My collection leans to the pre-war stuff now, but my devotion to the '89 Fleer Ripken card will live forever!

http://www.billripken.com

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If anyone wants to contribute information, stories or cards , please contact me anytime - or post on this thread. This card brought me back into collecting while in H.S. It keeps the kid in me going strong.

The error itself isn't rare, but a few of the corrections are. Dozens of corrections - that is where the story is.

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Old 06-21-2012, 06:30 PM
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Haha! The classic error card that should of never made it to the market.

Wonder how many young kids were scarred for life by the Bill Ripkin F*** Face card. I can just imagine the faces of parents when their kid pulled that Bill Ripken from their newly obtained pack of baseball cards! Then Fleer tries to correct it by putting a black box over the bottom of the bat haha.

Wonder what Cal Ripken thought of this........

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Old 06-21-2012, 09:17 PM
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I had several 'variations' that had a small sticker over the end of the bat. Turns out they were the rarest of the bunch! (original, scratch out, black box)
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I had several 'variations' that had a small sticker over the end of the bat. Turns out they were the rarest of the bunch! (original, scratch out, black box)
A sticker? A manually-applied-by-hand sticker? Sounds labor-intensive to me, and if indeed those are the rarest versions of the variety it seems to me - at this point I should say I've never seen one, so take what I'm about to say with however many grains of salt as you wish - that it can easily be faked. Anyone can add a sticker.
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I had several 'variations' that had a small sticker over the end of the bat. Turns out they were the rarest of the bunch! (original, scratch out, black box)
I too have never seen a version where there was a manually added sticker on the butt of the back. I got to agree with jp....it sounds easy to fake.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:36 AM
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That error caused tons of workers at Fleer to be fired and the President of the company stepped down because he was so upset.
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:37 PM
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Zach---are there any articles or documentation of such a purge. I would have thought instead it would have resulted in some bonus money somewhere,even if under the table.

I would sure like to see a sticker version, faked or not. The "cut" version, if a true variation , was also easy to fake. So was the "white out" version. Actually though, there were so many fakes, that they themselves may qualify as modern collectibles.

I have a bunch of these, and a bunch of the Randy Johnson Marlborough cards.

JP---very nice and informative web site. I have used it often
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Default "Sticker" cards

As far as I remember, these showed up shortly after the FF came to light. I believe it was the first attempt to obscure the offending part, basically trying to fix existing, unpackaged stock. I can not remember if they were in packs or vending boxes, but I do know that they showed up either at the Philly Civic Center or Willow Grove Show. The reason they may not be around?: At the time the FF was a hot card and people would just peel off the dot to show the prize. I sold a few "as is" as I never had much in the way of fingernails, and noone cared because the other 'fixes' hadn't started showing up yet.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. Not sure what the 'sticker' version/variation is.... Pictures?

There were a few odd variates that came directly from Fleer employees - smuggled in bras and pants. Weird stuff.

This craze was before the internet. Sharing of pictures and info was different. Fakes are everywhere - beware.

Thanks also to those that have posted & emailed info. Always a pleasure.
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Zach---are there any articles or documentation of such a purge. I would have thought instead it would have resulted in some bonus money somewhere,even if under the table.

I would sure like to see a sticker version, faked or not. The "cut" version, if a true variation , was also easy to fake. So was the "white out" version. Actually though, there were so many fakes, that they themselves may qualify as modern collectibles.

I have a bunch of these, and a bunch of the Randy Johnson Marlborough cards.

JP---very nice and informative web site. I have used it often
I got that info from Dave Jamison's book "Mint Condition"
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Thanks, Zach. I have that book and read it. But us old guys have poor retention
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Thanks, Zach. I have that book and read it. But us old guys have poor retention
No problem, I just hope my statement is correct too, I tend to forget lines in books too
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Old 06-26-2012, 06:37 AM
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How many official versions of this card are there? Like how many does Beckett or the Grading companies such as PSA or SGC recognize?
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PSA: 5 (FF, Black Box, Fleer Glossy Black Box, Black Scribble and "Whited out vulgarity".
SGC: pretty much the same. Nothing set in stone. The white scribble - I've seen "airbrushed", "scribble" and "whiteout". They also correctly labeled my progressive proofs.
BGS: 6. They list them #616A-E (FF, Whiteout, White Scribble, Black Scribble, Black Box) plus the Glossy edition.
GAI: they were the only one to do custom labels for each special version. Different black scribbles, sawcuts etc.

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Many true different variations.

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For those that requested it:

Not everything, but a basic list:
FF, FF w/ Black Doubled, FF w/ Red Doubled, FF w/ Blue Doubled, White Scribble, Black Box w/ Rounded left corner, Circle Scribble, Scribble w/ F, Scribble with 'loop or partial F, Scribble w/o F, Black Box w/ square edges, Whiteout.
Some are easy to locate, others take a long time. Circle Scribbles "semi-airbrushed" can be found in a few levels of darkness/coverage. Glossy "Collector's Tin" version is the rounded edge Black Box only. The "Test-Run" cards that pop up on eBay from time to time are all FAKE. Saw-Cut or factory cut examples can be found on nearly every version leading up to the Black Boxes. I even have one of those cut!
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The "Fish Face" variation! D'oh!
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I found a "saw cut white out" Ripken, contacted the owner of one of the Ripken sites and they gave me the e-mail of a guy who bought it for $100 the next day.... Found this card for $1 in a Scottsdale collection... (I think it may have been you)

On second thought it may have been white scribble, whoever I spoke to said it was roughly the 10th found.

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I updated the Ripken website last week. Needed a facelift.

That 'Dipkin' card is neat. 2 versions - both from '94. One was inserted in Simpson comic books. Sells for about $5. The other was special promo. Pretty rare. Most sell for $100+.
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Thanks to all that have contacted via the website! Keep the leads / info coming!
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