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Old 07-03-2011, 03:07 PM
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WOW! No pun intended, but July is off with a bang!

I just picked up a tremendous historically significant piece to add to my no-hitter collection:

A game used ball from the Red Sox Hubert Benjamin "Dutch" Leonard's no-hitter that he threw on August 30, 1916 at Fenway Park. The panel inscription was written in vintage fountain pen. The ball originated as a gift to a fan from Red Sox Chick Shorten. It has remained in one family's hands since 1916 where it was recently discovered in an attic find in upstate NY.

In this game, Red Sox lefty Dutch Leonard recorded only the 2nd no-hitter ever at Fenway. His teammate George "Rube" Foster beat him to the punch by throwing the 1st no-hitter at Fenway in June of 1916. This ball is a nice compliment to the only known ticket and scored program to Foster's no-hitter that I have in my personal collection. The Red Sox were really stacked with pitching during 1916. In addition to Leonard and Foster, they also had Ernie Shore and some left-handed upstart hurler named Babe Ruth...

BTW, perhaps some of you know this, but in 1914 Dutch Leonard put together one of the most incredible statistical pitching seasons ever recorded. Check out these stats:

In 36 games, Leonard only allowed a microscopic 0.96 ERA, and winning 19.

Now that's a season! It's a wonder that he ever lost in 1914 with an ERA that low....

I'd like to take a minute to wish everyone at net54 a wonderful July 4th!

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Old 07-03-2011, 05:49 PM
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I'm pretty excited about this one. I couldn't pass it up. Larry Doyle was NL MVP that year and Smokey Joe went 34-5.

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scott, that ball is AWESOME. I love hearing the stories of the Great old memorabilia still being found in attics and such. ANOTHER reason why your hobby is so rich in lore.
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Amazing baseball Scott! Great pickup
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Wow, that ball is something else!

And Packs, that's also a very cool piece. Always nice to see Smokey Joe around.
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scott, that ball is AWESOME. I love hearing the stories of the Great old memorabilia still being found in attics and such. ANOTHER reason why your hobby is so rich in lore.
Scott, Keith, Rick, Chris & Jerrod,

Thanks for the nice words about the 1916 Dutch Leonard no-hitter game ball. As collectors, finds like these are what it's all about!
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Earllier today I finally had some luck scouring the antique store that I also rent a display case in. I picked up an early figure eight baseball as well as a Spalding football from the late 20's early 30's time period. The football needs a little work, but should cleanup very well. The baseball is the piece that I am more excited about. It is a smaller sized baseball with just about an 8 inch circumference. The ball retains its makers mark as well as its model name: ROCKET. The Rocket is tough to discern in the photos, but is easier to see in person. The maker is Shibe, and it is in the shape of a baseball diamond. I was pretty excited to see Shibe as the maker, given his later connection with the Philadelphia Athletics and his namesake Shibe Park. I believe the ball dates to the 1880s. It has some condition issues with a large stain on one area, and its marks aren't the strongest, but I was still pumped to find it.


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It might not be vintage, but I'm excited about it. I have had the bat for a year or so, so with Jeter rehabing in Trenton over the weekend I figured it would be my best shot at getting him to sign it. I went both days to try to get him to sign it. Day 1, I failed. He was a few feet away but I couldn't get him to sign it for me. Then day 2 I got lucky. He was a few people away from me and with some luck he signed the bat.
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Old 07-08-2011, 02:46 PM
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Default HB Dutch Leonard game used no-hitter ball 8/30/16 at Fenway follow up

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WOW! No pun intended, but July is off with a bang!

I just picked up a tremendous historically significant piece to add to my no-hitter collection:

A game used ball from the Red Sox Hubert Benjamin "Dutch" Leonard's no-hitter that he threw on August 30, 1916 at Fenway Park. The panel inscription was written in vintage fountain pen. The ball originated as a gift to a fan from Red Sox Chick Shorten. It has remained in one family's hands since 1916 where it was recently discovered in an attic find in upstate NY.

In this game, Red Sox lefty Dutch Leonard recorded only the 2nd no-hitter ever at Fenway. His teammate George "Rube" Foster beat him to the punch by throwing the 1st no-hitter at Fenway in June of 1916. This ball is a nice compliment to the only known ticket and scored program to Foster's no-hitter that I have in my personal collection. The Red Sox were really stacked with pitching during 1916. In addition to Leonard and Foster, they also had Ernie Shore and some left-handed upstart hurler named Babe Ruth...

BTW, perhaps some of you know this, but in 1914 Dutch Leonard put together one of the most incredible statistical pitching seasons ever recorded. Check out these stats:

In 36 games, Leonard only allowed a microscopic 0.96 ERA, and winning 19.

Now that's a season! It's a wonder that he ever lost in 1914 with an ERA that low....

I'd like to take a minute to wish everyone at net54 a wonderful July 4th!


Follow up note: I just received the 1916 HB Dutch Leonard game used no-hitter ball today. After now seeing it in person, I would have to say that this is one of my most favorite items in my collection. The ball is just AWESOME!!

After inspecting the ball up close, I believe that the extreme dark toning is possibly due to the fact that Leonard occasionally threw a spitball and perhaps "loaded up" this vintage orb with his preferred concoction of licorice and whatever else. Considering it's age (95 years), it's in tremendous shape. Definately a centerpiece for my no-hitter collection, direct from the deadball era!

BTW, Lefty hurler Leonard also featured an overpowering fastball and hard breaking curve in his pitching arsenal en route to helping the Red Sox win World Championships in 1915, 1916 and 1918.

I've included a couple of pictures of Leonard in 1916. The second one features him and his batterymate from the no-hitter Bill Carrigan.
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The two photos I picked up in the Yee auction came in. Very nice.

The first is Gehrig arguing with the ump from 1938 WS.
It looks even better in person. Very large 8 1/4 x 10 size, but it still appears like it was cut a little.



Second is 1936 Gehrig and Ott before WS.
It came slabbed. I was surprised as the slab is actually pretty nice. Thin yet sturdy. Now, I wouldn't spend money to send any of my others in to be slabbed, but I don't think I'm going to break any I happen to buy slabbed out either.

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Old 07-09-2011, 04:55 PM
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I'm not quite sure what's going on the last three months, but it's been raining Lincoln minor league baseball memorabilia...anyway today I was at an estate auction and picked up 10 (TEN!!) programs from 1947-49 including the program (scored) from the very first Lincoln Athletics Game...along with that I picked up a ticket from the very first game, a 1947 schedule card and two Child's grandstand tickets from 1947....three of the programs I picked up today are from 1948 and have Nellie Fox in the lineups.






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Old 07-09-2011, 10:27 PM
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Dan
Awesome Stuff- Congrats.
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When you send emails like you've been sending, I always feel that they capture the true essence of collecting. congrats!
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:42 AM
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I'm not quite sure what's going on the last three months, but it's been raining Lincoln minor league baseball memorabilia...anyway today I was at an estate auction and picked up 10 (TEN!!) programs from 1947-49 including the program (scored) from the very first Lincoln Athletics Game...along with that I picked up a ticket from the very first game, a 1947 schedule card and two Child's grandstand tickets from 1947....three of the programs I picked up today are from 1948 and have Nellie Fox in the lineups.



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Congrats Dan- you are definately on a roll!!
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:17 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm really fond of that first game ticket stub...someone in here a year or so back posted a similar ticket from the opening game of another of Connie Mack's minor league clubs so I always suspected that a stub like that existed for Lincoln and I was right.
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Default Whi is #3 in the photo behind Gehrig??

Interesting photo. What Yankee is that behind Gehrig wearing #3 certainly not the Babe. Probably George Selkirk.

How many guys wore #3 for the Yanks before they retired his number? Can you believe:

Eddie Bockman
Allie Clark
Frank Colman
Cliff Mapes
Bud Metheny
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The two photos I picked up in the Yee auction came in. Very nice.

The first is Gehrig arguing with the ump from 1938 WS.
It looks even better in person. Very large 8 1/4 x 10 size, but it still appears like it was cut a little.



Second is 1936 Gehrig and Ott before WS.
It came slabbed. I was surprised as the slab is actually pretty nice. Thin yet sturdy. Now, I wouldn't spend money to send any of my others in to be slabbed, but I don't think I'm going to break any I happen to buy slabbed out either.

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Interesting photo. What Yankee is that behind Gehrig wearing #3 certainly not the Babe. Probably George Selkirk.
Selkirk is correct.
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Continued with my lucky week of antiquing with a couple of new pickups
The first is a rare small sized Gund NFL Chicago Bears doll in immaculate condition. I have never seen one this size before - the others I've seen are about 14 inches tall, this one is only about 9 inches tall.
Next is an early smooth gutty - gutta percha golf ball.

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Just picked up this ticket to the " Fourth Annual Hop " of the Newark Base Ball Club. It is dated 2/15/1860.
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Got this in the mail yesterday. Tough to find anything with Duff Cooley on it.
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Just picked up this ticket to the " Fourth Annual Hop " of the Newark Base Ball Club. It is dated 2/15/1860.
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I saw that one on eBay and considered chasing that as well.
Very nice pickup-congrats!

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Old 07-27-2011, 10:06 AM
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I recently have picked a nice item for my Johnny VanderMeer collection:

A circa 1935 vintage fountain pen signed minor league ball of Vandy on his way up to the bigs. Gotta love the multi-colored laces! A perfect vintage orb of the pitcher who's ML record of two consecutive no-hitters is likely to never be broken.

This begs the question:
What ML baseball record do you feel is the most bulletproof?

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I'd have to agree with Larry Ritter: nobody will come close to Cobb's career BA.

I guess it would be OK to derail the pickup thread with only a few more days left in the month.
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There's always talk of DiMaggio's hitting streak being completely bulletproof, especially after reading about the statistics that Stephen Jay Gould came up with regarding the thing. Here's a piece he wrote about it in 1988:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/arch...ak-of-streaks/

For whatever reason, it always seems to me like it could be beaten, especially when modern players start getting into the mid-to-high 30s (Rollins, Castillo, Utley, etc.). But of course at that point, the media scrutiny would probably be overwhelming, and I can't imagine the pressure not getting to them. If it got to DiMaggio in '41, back when the press wasn't ANYTHING like it is today, then I can't even imagine the modern day equivalent. So, I suppose when I consider all of that, it's pretty darn safe.

For my money, I think the one record that will never be touched is Cy Young's career win total. And heck, even his loss total. 511-316?? I mean, that stat becomes more and more incredible as pitcher's inning counts become more and more 'important' to development of talent. Well, not saying that they aren't important, but I think you know what I mean.

Anywho...

Here's another photo I picked up:



A lovely shot of Jim Palmer during his no-hitter from August 13, 1969 - only FOUR days after coming off of the disabled list. It reminded me of that Koufax shot I did a while back, so I though it would make a cool painting, too!

Weeee!

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Just received this one in the mail today - 1885 Harper's Weekly woodcut includes Buck Ewing, King Kelly, John Ward, Jim O'Rourke & Charles Radbourne.
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Completed a great transaction with a board member and added the below to my collection. Very excited and am going to try to figure out a way to frame it with a T3.
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Here's George Walsh's stats if anyone's interested...
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I guess Hughie didn't hit the mark on this one!
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