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Seems like a good day for Old Judge discussion so I thought I'd throw another one out there. New poses are still being discovered with some regularity, recently aided by having a good resource ("The Photographic Baseball Cards of Goodwin & Co." book) to compare collections against. However, the number of subjects in the set, 521, has been constant for awhile.
Since the initial Cartophilic Society Old Judge checklist, thirteen new members have been added as "half numbers" as follows: #118.5 D.J. Davin (3 poses) #164.5 Jocko Flynn (2 poses) #172.5 Fred Fudger #186.5 Leighton Gibson #213.5 Al Hapeman #276.5 Rube Levy #308.5 James McDonald (2 poses) #321.5 Pete Meegan #354.5 Harry O’Day #373.5 Thomas Powers #439.5 Len Stockwell #451.5 Louis Sylvester #472.5 William Veach (5 poses) As expected, all of these latest additions are exceedinly rare, even Veach with five poses in total. My question is when where these players added? How long has the set been complete at 521? Should note that older checklists sometimes included entries for cards that have since been found to belong to already catalogued subjects (Burns - Omaha = Burns - Kansas City, Foster = Forster, Kelly Umpire = Kelly manager, McCreachery = Deacon White). With that understood, of the 521 subjects currently checklisted, who were the most recent additions (and when)? I was originally going to discuss this with just Jay & Richard but figured others might be able to contribute and have interest.
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Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski COLLECTOR OF: - 19th century Detroit memorabilia and cards with emphasis on Goodwin & Co. issues ( N172 / N173 / N175 ) and Tomlinson cabinets - N333 SF Hess Newsboys League cards (all teams) - Pre ATC Merger (1890 and prior) cigarette packs and redemption coupons from all manufacturers |
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Joe--The last player discovered was O'Day-Sacramento. That card came out of a Christies Auction in September, 1996. Barry, Rob Lifson, Bill Mastro, Don Steinback and even comediane Elayne Boosler were at this live auction. That card (along with several other of those that you have listed) were not added to the Cartophilic Society Listing until a few years later when several of us did an update.
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Thanks Jay,
So 13 years and a couple months since the last new subject member. I'm surprised that the major finds of the last decade haven't turned up any new players. Who were the other subjects that were added with O'Day during the checklist update during the late 90s?
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Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski COLLECTOR OF: - 19th century Detroit memorabilia and cards with emphasis on Goodwin & Co. issues ( N172 / N173 / N175 ) and Tomlinson cabinets - N333 SF Hess Newsboys League cards (all teams) - Pre ATC Merger (1890 and prior) cigarette packs and redemption coupons from all manufacturers |
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Did the Gibson come up on ebay a few years back? Was the sellers name "JeffsJunque" or something like that?
Besides Cal League cards can someone list the last 5 players that were discovered?
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Joe--I don't remember--I'll try to find my old notes.
Fred--Gibson was found by a Long Island dealer in the 80's. The copy you are referring to was a second copy. |
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Thanks Jay.
Note, a third copy of Gibson was also "found" last year at the Baseball Hall of Fame during one of our visits in support of writing the book. Flynn also only has three known copies split amongst two poses. However, two of them are housed in museum collections.
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Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski COLLECTOR OF: - 19th century Detroit memorabilia and cards with emphasis on Goodwin & Co. issues ( N172 / N173 / N175 ) and Tomlinson cabinets - N333 SF Hess Newsboys League cards (all teams) - Pre ATC Merger (1890 and prior) cigarette packs and redemption coupons from all manufacturers |
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