Highest graded T206 Wagner ?

[insidethewrapper]

I thought a Wagner was once sold graded PSA 8. The population report lists the top graded Wagner as a 5Q ? Which is it ? Also only 6 listed as graded ( 2-Auth, 2 PSA-2, 1-PSA 4 and 1 PSA 5Q), I thought more than this would be graded. Any insights or thoughts on this ? Thanks Mike

[Steve D]

From the PSA Population Report:

T206 (Unknown Back)

Honus Wagner (Auth)-2 (1)-10 (2)-8 (3)-3 (4)-1 (5)-1 (Total)-25
Honus Wagner Mcnall/Gretzky (8)-1 (Total)-1

T206 (Sweet Caporal Back)

Honus Wagner (Auth)-2 (2)-2 (4)-1 (5Q)-1 (Total)-6


Steve

[CardTarget]

Is there a picture of the PSA 5 floating around anywhere? Would love to see it...

[fkw]

Not the best scan, but this one is listed in my records as a PSA-5


$1.62 Mil 11/08 Arkansas owner

edited to add a better scan

[Bosox Blair]

Does anyone know if the reverse printing is severely affected by the miscut? Because I've seen much worse diamond cuts on a 5 that did not attract a (MC) qualifier...

Cheers,
Blair

[Republicaninmass]

I believe the MC is because the card is not a perfect square regardless ofthe cut. More of a trapeziod. IMO these cards usually dont get holdered at all...being that it is a Wagner...

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

IMO these cards usually dont get holdered at all...

Really? I've never heard of that before. I've seen many, many cards that are not a rectangle get slabbed and graded...literally hundreds of caramel cards...as long as it was the factory cut.

Cheers,
Blair

[Republicaninmass]

Notice how it looks like the card is kind of shoved in there...it almost looks liek the card could be damaged under those "stops" of plastic


from PSA's site

"N-8 Miscut - This term is used when the factory cut is an abnormal cut. The grading fees are returned. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service. "

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Notice how it looks like the card is kind of shoved in there...it almost looks liek the card could be damaged under those "stops" of plastic


from PSA's site

"N-8 Miscut - This term is used when the factory cut is an abnormal cut. The grading fees are returned. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service. "

Interesting. There must be some kind of acceptable threshold though. The ones I've seen, they just put it in a slab with a bigger window - the card is a bit loose inside.

Cheers,
Blair

[Steve D]

Normally, a diamond-cut card won't get an MC designation. If you look very closely at the extreme bottom of the Wagner above, you can see a small amount of the border of the card that was below it on the sheet. The way I understand it from having read the original auction listing when it was sold, the mc designation on the above card is simply due to this border being visible.


Steve

[fkw]

Id call it miscut for the simple fact that you can see a sliver of the card below it (bottom right corner)

[Bosox Blair]

Steve & Frank,

Gotcha - I had not noticed that on the card until you pointed it out!

Cheers,
Blair