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Old 07-23-2019, 03:44 PM
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Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.
I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:49 PM
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I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
Is this post a joke or what. Are you that naive?
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:58 PM
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Is this post a joke or what. Are you that naive?
Ben is kidding.
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I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.
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If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.
Well in the end it will be good for the hobby because jeff will make enough on this case to buy plenty of more high value cards which is good for the hobby to see prices go up...
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:57 PM
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If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.
Since Brent by definition is good for the hobby, that conflict will never arise.
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if mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, i am pretty confident i know which one he is legally obligated to choose.
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I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
And it's all PSA's fault, not his, don't forget. If PSA passes an altered card, it's no problem to sell it even if you altered it yourself or know that your consignor did.
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And it's all PSA's fault, not his, don't forget. If PSA passes an altered card, it's no problem to sell it even if you altered it yourself or know that your consignor did.
That is so obvious I didn't think I would have to mention it.
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That is so obvious I didn't think I would have to mention it.
I may have to bring my neighbor Susan C the professional restorer some cards to work on. If she can get them into higher grade slabs, which surely she can, I can sell them and sleep easy because it's all PSA's fault.
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I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
He has one client. And no obligation to do anything for the hobby.
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He has one client. And no obligation to do anything for the hobby.
Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!

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I wonder if Jeff would represent Joe Orlando down the line?
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Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!
A big kudos to him for reaffirming the punchline of every lawyer joke every written.
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Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!
It’s kind of how the lawyer thing works. I don’t think you’d want your lawyer to have some alternative agenda other that getting you the best defense possible.
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Lots of people punching WELL above their weight these days.
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Seems to me Brent screwed a lot of people for a lot of money. I think it's kind of cool that a fellow board member is now going to take a lot of money from him.

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I do not know Jeff personally, but have read many of his posts here. He has been a champion of the hobby. I believe if Brent was represented by a different attorney, he very well could have been advised to take different actions than refunding those who have purchased doctored cards. I presume Jeff thought about and is walking a bit of a fine line here. Facilitating both what is in his clients best legal interest while helping some people get restitution. I trust his practice and intention here.
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Seems to me Brent screwed a lot of people for a lot of money. I think it's kind of cool that a fellow board member is now going to take a lot of money from him.

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i am sure mr lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.
obviously :d:d:d:d

total sellout period
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