PWCC Huigens Now Has a Criminal Defense Attorney

[calvindog]

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

Agreed. You should not have to do that. Total BS.
They are water under the bridge....just like this one is.

It's already passed and over with now that you're on the case.

Like I said, It's just hard to swallow, maybe it's the Novocain

[asphaltman]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

I think everyone understands you can no longer comment on this case on this forum. It’s just not going to stop everyone else from putting in their two cents.

As far as PWCC, Those that can afford upper echelon council have always retained such. That’s always been the American way too.

[Frank A]

Very interesting that a guy who thought all this was a ripoff, then decides to represent this guy who ripped off collectors. As a collector I would think you would have thought about what you are doing before taking the job of sticking collectors with their altered stinking cards. Disgrace.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Frank A

Very interesting that a guy who thought all this was a ripoff, then decides to represent this guy who ripped off collectors. As a collector I would think you would have thought about what you are doing before taking the job of sticking collectors with their altered stinking cards. Disgrace.

I also mentioned the fact about lack of lawsuits and he was always criticizing my posts saying that means nothing and there was lots of harm done despite that and now im sure he will say that the situations sucks but people got their money back and issue is over..

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

That's a fair request everyone should honor.

I'm not sure how this situation moves too far along without PWCC throwing PSA under the bus. Seems inevitable that your role is not only to defend PWCC, but establish the rules of how baseball cards are graded and authenticated. Can you divulge if PSA's attorney is cooperating with the FBI?

Let's be clear here, PWCC never encapsulated an altered card, PSA did. If PSA has deficiencies in detecting altered cards, that is not PWCC's fault, nor any other 1,000's of submitter's.

There are some very important precedence's that could be established from this case. Most of which, IMO, could be good for the industry. Your carrying a big torch here Jeff, and it appears you are prepared.

[Santo10Fan]

My only question would be, what took him so long?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

[Frank A]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

Is this post a joke or what. Are you that naive?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Frank A

Is this post a joke or what. Are you that naive?

Ben is kidding.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.

Well in the end it will be good for the hobby because jeff will make enough on this case to buy plenty of more high value cards which is good for the hobby to see prices go up...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

If Mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, I am pretty confident I know which one he will choose.

Since Brent by definition is good for the hobby, that conflict will never arise.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

if mr. Lichtman is required to choose a course of action that is in the best interest of his client but not in the best interest of the hobby, i am pretty confident i know which one he is legally obligated to choose.

fyp

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

And it's all PSA's fault, not his, don't forget. If PSA passes an altered card, it's no problem to sell it even if you altered it yourself or know that your consignor did.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And it's all PSA's fault, not his, don't forget. If PSA passes an altered card, it's no problem to sell it even if you altered it yourself or know that your consignor did.

That is so obvious I didn't think I would have to mention it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

That is so obvious I didn't think I would have to mention it.

I may have to bring my neighbor Susan C the professional restorer some cards to work on. If she can get them into higher grade slabs, which surely she can, I can sell them and sleep easy because it's all PSA's fault.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I am sure Mr Lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

He has one client. And no obligation to do anything for the hobby.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

He has one client. And no obligation to do anything for the hobby.

Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!

[CMIZ5290]

I wonder if Jeff would represent Joe Orlando down the line?

[conor912]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!

A big kudos to him for reaffirming the punchline of every lawyer joke every written.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Integrity, dignity, and hypocrisy be damned!

It’s kind of how the lawyer thing works. I don’t think you’d want your lawyer to have some alternative agenda other that getting you the best defense possible.

[Republicaninmass]

Lots of people punching WELL above their weight these days.

[Moonlight Graham]

Seems to me Brent screwed a lot of people for a lot of money. I think it's kind of cool that a fellow board member is now going to take a lot of money from him.

Joe Kemmett

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by bnorth

i am sure mr lichtman will do what is best for the hobby and his client who was obviously used by less than honest card doctors.

obviously :d:d:d:d

total sellout period

[conor912]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Guys, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep discussions about me limited to my dealings with cards. I come to this board to discuss cards and nothing else in my life and it's an oasis for me in an otherwise stressful career for this reason.

If that's too much for some of you to handle, I'll no longer post about the hobby-related cases, etc. I'm involved in or respond to questions. I hope you can understand that I'm not going to make myself available to discuss these issues with you all while also having to deal with every idiot who posts about my other cases, etc.

If I'm following all of this correctly (you openly criticizing Brent and his actions then taking him - as his money - as a client), then it sounds like you should have thought about this request before shitting on your own doorstep.

If I have it wrong, by all means someone please correct me.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by conor912

If I'm following all of this correctly (you openly criticizing Brent and his actions then taking him - as his money - as a client), then it sounds like you should have thought about this request before shitting on your own doorstep.

If I have it wrong, by all means someone please correct me.

This is my take. Brent who was obviously taken advantage of because of his kind and generous heart. Contacted Mr Lichtman and explained how he was taken advantage of. Mr Lichtman realized how he could help the hobby by exposing those evil people who took advantage of his naive client.

It is obvious that PSA is the one at fault here. Brent didn't encapsulate any of the 10-15 bad cards that got past PSA.

Now Brent feels so bad that he was taken advantage of he is trying to get those 10-15 people their money back.

Now in the best interest of the hobby we should never speak of this tiny insignificant error ever again.