Careful, BLATANT FAKE Walter Johnson

[danmckee]

I have reported this several times and received some disheartening emails from the seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251068420991...84.m1952.l2649

[3-2-count]

He's also selling a bad E90-1 Cobby. Sadly it already has a bid.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T209-E-...item3a74d80dec

[danmckee]

Maybe with some board member's help we can get these 2 bogus auctions shut down from this joker.

[barrysloate]

A Walter Johnson with a Southern League back...come on, give us a break.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Maybe with some board member's help we can get these 2 bogus auctions shut down from this joker.

I reported them both!

[kcohen]

I've reported both and I urge others to follow suit. The Cobb definitely looks bad to me. You handle enough of a particular issue and you can just tell. But if someone asked me for specifics as to why it's bad, I couldn't provide them. Could someone help me here?

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by kcohen

I've reported both and I urge others to follow suit. The Cobb definitely looks bad to me. You handle enough of a particular issue and you can just tell. But if someone asked me for specifics as to why it's bad, I couldn't provide them. Could someone help me here?

The colors are off including the white border shade surrounding his image, but more noticeable is the premature aging the card has been given.
I've owned a lot of E90-1's and have never seen those stress marks throughout like this fake displays.

[calvindog]

Both of those cards are hilariously bad fakes. Unreal.

[danmckee]

The printed on paper cracking is a dead give away on both. Also as Barry stated, wrong back on the Walter Johnson. I have reported them 3 ti,es, no luck yet.

[Exhibitman]

Unfortunately, no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer, which makes regulation necessary, even though anyone stupid enough to buy a clear fake with an impossible back simply should not be buying raw T206s at all.

[buymycards]

Before you do something and say something you DONT KNOW FOR FACT maybe you should contact me first....These cards were taken to a local deal and were stated as real by him, and he deals in this stuff....next the card conditions and information are true so please keep your OPINIONS to yourself


- penalty_box_sportscards

That was the sellers response when I sent him a message. He is either really ignorant or really crooked.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by buymycards

He is either really ignorant or really crooked.

Does it have to be "either or" or could it be "and" ?


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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by kcohen

I've reported both and I urge others to follow suit. The Cobb definitely looks bad to me. You handle enough of a particular issue and you can just tell. But if someone asked me for specifics as to why it's bad, I couldn't provide them. Could someone help me here?

OK....here is the "specifics" why the E90 Cobb is a REPRINT....check out the upper left area on the back of this card and you will find evidence of paper loss.

E90's were reprinted some years back. And, in that upper left area on the backs of all these reprints is the letter "C". Therefore, and I've seen this before on
ebay, the seller will scrape off the "C"....leaving a small area of paper loss.

It's as easy as that to detect these reprints. Furthermore, when you compare an original E90-1 card to these reprints, you will see that the reprint is a tad
smaller than a real E90.

Otherwise, some of the fronts of these reprints that I have seen are pretty good replicas. If I was at home I'd scan a Cy Young I have to illustrate what I've
described here.


TED Z

[kcohen]

Thanks Tony, Dan, and Ted. As I said, I could tell because it just didn't look right but couldn't put my finger on why. Now I know.

[barrysloate]

Every one of these sellers has the same story....I took them to an expert, he guaranteed they were real, therefore you're an idiot for telling me they're fake. It's a broken record with these guys.

[GoldenAge50s]

For what it's worth, I reported them both.

[Edwolf1963]

Same here, reported both cards

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Unfortunately, no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American consumer, which makes regulation necessary, even though anyone stupid enough to buy a clear fake with an impossible back simply should not be buying raw T206s at all.

Adam, they shouldn't be buying PSA graded ones either as SCP has had a few graded impossible back combinations in their last 2 auctions.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Does it have to be "either or" or could it be "and" ?


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Well played my friend!

[Mdoe]

In addition to Ted's post #13 in this thread-- my Cobb reprint is slightly different. There is no C but the word reprint is at the bottom center on the back. Compare the listed Cobb with the attached pic-- especially the border above "Ty" and the "tr" in Detroit-- the fading is the same. Also look at the fading around the bat. The listing matches my reprint-- clearly a fake.

Sorry for the large whitespace in the image-- my first image post.

[tbob]

Almost every single E90-1 reprint (including Cobb) which you see on ebay will have a smudge or tiny paper loss where the "20" is on the back. That is the dead give away. The faked aging and wrong coloration are just icing on the cake.

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Lee

[Pat R]

They are gone good job guys!!! along with the impossible fb on the johnson
there was no factory on the card.

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Pat R

They are gone good job guys!!! along with the impossible fb on the johnson
there was no factory on the card.

I clicked on the links and they are still there, with the WaJo ending with no bids and Cobb being shown as SOLD. Someone will obviously get hosed if this transaction is not somehow preempted. Or best case, the one bid is a shill.

[npa589]

Well, I contacted him a day or so ago as well, twice, letting him know they were fakes. He didn't respond. I think it's safe to say that he had plenty of notice.

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