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Old 07-23-2015, 06:34 PM
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I got this back today and I am very happy to have this slabbed

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Old 07-23-2015, 08:59 PM
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I don't think PSA knows how to grade those - that's a really nice example and in the range of possibilities it's far more than a 3 - the centering is great, the striker is clean, the staple was removed with no damage - that's a beauty!
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:28 PM
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I don't think PSA knows how to grade those - that's a really nice example and in the range of possibilities it's far more than a 3 - the centering is great, the striker is clean, the staple was removed with no damage - that's a beauty!
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:05 PM
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I don't think PSA knows how to grade those - that's a really nice example and in the range of possibilities it's far more than a 3 - the centering is great, the striker is clean, the staple was removed with no damage - that's a beauty!

Thanks! I have another matchbook and it is not as nice as the one that I had graded. I want to find the 1933 and if I am really lucky a 1934 one too.
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:34 PM
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wrestlingcardking,

Are you interested in Nagurski because he wrestled? Another less heralded player from the 30s who wrestled only during the offseason came to mind for me - Father Lumpkin. He doesn't have any football cards, but he does appear in several of these matchbook sets.

Wrestling: http://wrestlingdata.com/index.php?b...wrestler=13862

Football: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...L/LumpFa20.htm
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Old 07-25-2015, 06:51 AM
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Are you interested in Nagurski because he wrestled? Another less heralded player from the 30s who wrestled only during the offseason came to mind for me - Father Lumpkin. He doesn't have any football cards, but he does appear in several of these matchbook sets.

Wrestling: http://wrestlingdata.com/index.php?b...wrestler=13862

Football: http://www.pro-football-reference.co...L/LumpFa20.htm
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Old 09-07-2015, 02:57 PM
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Is this way of storing matchbooks a bad idea:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231538817755...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It looks like the seller folded the matchbooks in order to get them to fit into a card saver.

How do others store them? Are there any cases or album pages for these? I don't have one yet, but I missed on my first auction recently:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ROY-...p2047675.l2557

so I figure I'm getting closer......I bid low not only because of the condition, but with the stubs of the matches in there - I wasn't sure if I should remove them or what.... Any thoughts? Thanks.

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Old 09-07-2015, 05:32 PM
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If you like to put your raw sets in binders, use the 6 pocket ones for matchbooks. They work really well.

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John I followed your link. The matchbooks haven't been folded to fit into the card saver. They stick out a little at the top
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[QUOTE=DezHood;1450209]Is this way of storing matchbooks a bad idea:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231538817755...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

It looks like the seller folded the matchbooks in order to get them to fit into a card saver.
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Back in my Baseball HOF Rookies collecting days, I was always on the lookout for a Cal Hubbard matchbook from the 1930's (not sure exactly which year it was issued or if there was more than one) but they always seemed to be exceedingly expensive ($1,000+). Was that a particularly tough one to come by?

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Thanks Larry - yeah they still don't fit that well. Since I often see them flattened out, I was wondering what collectors thought about keeping the striker folded back.

Thanks Jeff - I found some six pocket BCW folders on Amazon and they look about right. I know you're not big into matchbook collecting, do you or anyone have an image of how they look in the 6 pocket binders? The matchbooks seem to come up raw more often than graded and I wouldn't think fakes are a huge issue, so I am leaning towards picking up a few raw - not really going after the set, but more thinking of companion pieces for players who weren't included in the Chicle set since I like the 30s.

Phil, I took a quick look at John Spano's GG article from several years back and it does mention: "1933 Diamond Cal Hubbard - Only member of both Baseball and Football HOF, $800-$1000 not quite as rare as ’33 Herber......". I vaguely recall someone posted an image of one recently - I wouldn't be surprised if the price has gone up....

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Old 09-08-2015, 09:19 AM
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Thanks Larry - yeah they still don't fit that well. Since I often see them flattened out, I was wondering what collectors thought about keeping the striker folded back.

Thanks Jeff - I found some six pocket BCW folders on Amazon and they look about right. I know you're not big into matchbook collecting, do you or anyone have an image of how they look in the 6 pocket binders? The matchbooks seem to come up raw more often than graded and I wouldn't think fakes are a huge issue, so I am leaning towards picking up a few raw - not really going after the set, but more thinking of companion pieces for players who weren't included in the Chicle set since I like the 30s.

Phil, I took a quick look at John Spano's GG article from several years back and it does mention: "1933 Diamond Cal Hubbard - Only member of both Baseball and Football HOF, $800-$1000 not quite as rare as 33 Herber......". I vaguely recall someone posted an image of one recently - I wouldn't be surprised if the price has gone up....
I have some raw matchbooks and they are in 6 pocket binders and fit really well. I'll try to take a picture for you tonight.

There was a 1933 Cal Hubbard Diamond Matchbook that came up on ebay in a lot that closed last week. Anybody snag it? If so, they got a decent price even though it was pretty beat up.

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Jeff, are u collecting matchbooks now?


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Jeff, that was you who won the Father Lumpkin? I've been gone for a few days - did you notice the Lumpkin auction was the one I posted the eBay link to in the earlier thread? The first matchbook I ever bid on. As the new owner, are you going to flatten it out? In the listing, I recall it still had a staple and one stub of a match. Nice pickup!

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Old 09-15-2015, 11:17 AM
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Jeff, that was you who won the Father Lumpkin? I've been gone for a few days - did you notice the Lumpkin auction was the one I posted the eBay link to in the earlier thread? The first matchbook I ever bid on. As the new owner, are you going to flatten it out? In the listing, I recall it still had a staple and one stub of a match. Nice pickup!
Hi John. Saw your post but didn't know I was bidding against you! Sorry.

I have several matchbooks that still have rusty staples in them but with no matches. I do plan to try and take the staples out and flatten them but will start with a common or two before trying such an operation on Mr. Lumpkin!

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Old 09-15-2015, 11:49 AM
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Makes sense - yeah the idea of modifying it scared me a bit.

I had a feeling you didn't notice it was the same auction - no hard feelings about losing I actually put in a really weak bid - I think around 12-14 dollars. I'm glad you got it.
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Reviving this old thread, I picked up six of these in complete matchbook form over the weekend:

John J. Welch (pink)
Roy Lumpkin (pink)
Hank Bruder (green)
Dale Burnett (green)
Grover Emerson (green)
Cliff Battles (green)

What would be a fair price for each of those complete matchbooks? Here is Battles:



The dark tint inside the book in this image is a scanner artifact:



Any help would be appreciated. I am looking to move the lot and have no idea what to ask. The only comp I could find was a pink Flaherty full book that went for $210 via BIN on eBay.
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Great find! There was a Chris Cagle that also recently sold for 119. Can I ask where you were able to find these?
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Old 11-25-2023, 07:14 AM
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Nice common examples without matches typically go for between $50-$100 depending on the player. HOFers and some that are very hard to find will go for much more.

I've picked up full books of these (commons) for between $100-$200. So I assume full books go for 50% -100 % more than those without matches but that's an estimate.

What do others think?

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P.S. Still looking for 4 matchbook covers to complete this set! If you have Stu Clancy, Tex Irvin, Potsy Jones, or Maynard Morrison and want to part with them, please PM me.
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Shawther, I could tell you where I got them but then I'd have to kill you.

Thanks for the info, Jeff. I don't have the ones you listed, just the ones I listed. All are available for purchase or trade, BTW, so if anyone wants any or all of them, let me know. Battles is gone.
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